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PRESIDIO HEIGHTS- FOUR EYEWITNESSES TO MURDER

3/7/2018

 
The three teenagers at Presidio Heights described the suspect in the Paul Stine taxicab on October 11th 1969 as "a white male, 25-30 years old, 5'8" to 5'9", stocky build, reddish-brown hair worn in a crew cut, heavy rimmed glasses and dark clothing". A sketch was drawn up and released to the public on October 13th 1969 describing the suspect as "WMA, 25-30 years, 5'8" to 5'9", reddish brown hair, crew cut, heavy rimmed glasses, navy blue or black jacket". It is clear that this was a poster garnered from the three teenagers. 
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A new and updated sketch was distributed on October 18th 1969 upon further consultation with the three teenagers. The new description was given as a "WMA, 35-45 years, approximately 5'8", heavy build, short brown hair, possibly with red tint, wears glasses".
 
On October 21st 1969, the San Francisco Chronicle ran an article entitled 'Lawmen Pool Their Zodiac Clues', stating "Meanwhile, police circulated a new composite drawing of the 'Zodiac' suspect based on further questioning of the three witnesses to Stine's killing". It appears on the face of it, that the sighting of a trained police officer, Donald Fouke, who apparently told Armond Pelissetti mere minutes after the murder of Paul Stine his passing of a man on Jackson Street, played absolutely no part in either composite. To disregard the input of a highly trained professional police officer seems rather curious, if not disrespectful.
 
Armond Pelissetti stated in the 2007 Zodiac documentary "It seemed that Officer Fouke in that amount of time felt that he had stopped the Zodiac. Well, it's very hard to say whether he did or not, it would be a point of conjecture at this point, and he seemed quite upset. Fouke was also very clear about what the person was wearing- it just so happens the area is extremely well lit, and I cannot imagine him not seeing the shine of blood on the clothing if it had been Zodiac. I feel bad for him if he believes that was Zodiac. I don't think it was".
 
Despite the fact Donald Fouke gave an extensive description of the man, in an "extremely well lit" area of Jackson Street, not dissimilar to the description given by the three teenagers - that he witnessed only minutes after the murder, traveling in the same direction as proffered by the three eyewitnesses - his recollection was roundly dismissed as Zodiac, by not only Armond Pelissetti, but the hierarchy involved in submitting both police sketches, who seemingly never consulted him. Only eight and a half hours later, dated October 12th 1969, Armond Pelissetti countersigned a police report with Frank Peda stating that the suspect was "last seen walking north on Cherry Street, from Washington Street".  Officer Donald Fouke's sighting near Jackson and Maple was therefore clearly not recognized in this police report at all. Evidently, not a ringing endorsement to the observations of a trained member of law enforcement. The three teenagers apparently were the only eyewitnesses considered. 

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That makes it all the more surprising, when we read page two of the police report: "​'#2 SUSPECT: WMA, in his early forties, 5'8", heavy build, reddish-blond, crew cut hair. wearing eyeglasses, dark brown trousers, dark (navy blue or black) "Parka" jacket, dark shoes. Suspect should have many blood stains on his person and clothing, suspect may also be in possession of the keys to the Yellow Cab, possibly has wallet belonging to the victim. Last seen walking north on Cherry Street, from Washington Street'.

This description tallied with the teenagers, but is described as 
#2 SUSPECT in his early 40s. By October 13th 1969,  and up to October 18th 1969, the suspect in the sketch submitted to the public was described as 25-30 years. But in the October 12th 1969 police report it details a man in his early 40s. If this wasn't Donald Fouke or the three teenagers description - then who was it?

There was a report in the San Francisco Chronicle on October 12th 1969, describing a man seen running into Julius Khan playground, but this couldn't have been 
#2 SUSPECT in the police report, because the police report stated the suspect was "last seen walking north on Cherry Street, from Washington Street". The only other eyewitness was an 8-year-old child in the FBI files, secured by Alex Lewis and later redacted to read 'Xenophon Lusby Anthony, WMA, DOB 28th February 1931, resides at 3218 Jackson Street, San Francisco. For Info Ident Division, San Francisco Police Department advised; 8-year-old witness in murder of cab driver identified Anthony as possible subject in this matter'.  The individual in this document would have been 37 years of age on October 11th 1969 - between the 35-45 age range offered in the revised sketch on October 18th 1969. This is not inferring that  Xenophon Lusby Anthony was the Zodiac Killer, only that the description of the 8-year-old could very well have been the #2 SUSPECT description given in the police report, and the sighting must have occurred somewhere between the crime scene and the top of Cherry Street. After all, the man was "last seen walking north on Cherry Street, from Washington Street".

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3898 Washington Street overlooks the crime scene, on the opposite side of the street to the three teenagers. Using ancestry records it was possible to identify the owner of 3898 Washington Street on October 11th 1969 as Alexander Henry von Hafften. He had a child aged 8 years and 2 months named Robert, who lived at this residence. Is it likely that this is the child mentioned in the FBI document, who recognized Xenophon Anthony from his bedroom window that night, directly overlooking the crime scene?

However, 
Sick E. Von Brutal, a member on Ophion1031's 'This is the Zodiac Speaking' forum, stated that he "got a Facebook reply back from Robert von Hafften today and he told me that he was not the 8-year-old witness from the FBI report". Whether he didn't want to get involved in the Zodiac case, or actually wasn't the 8-year-old child described in the FBI report- one may never know. But if this definitely wasn't the child, who observed somebody he thought was Xenophon Lusby Anthony, subject in the murder of Paul Stine, then this unidentified 8-year-old child must still have resided somewhere between the crime scene and the top of Cherry Street (if responsible for the description in the police report).
 
Was Xenophon Anthony a case of mistaken identity by the 8-year-old child? If so, then we could still be looking for a killer who resembled Xenophon Anthony on October 11th 1969. Somebody described as "35-45 years, approximately 5'8", heavy build, short brown hair, possibly with red tint, wears glasses" and "in his early forties, 5'8", heavy build, reddish-blond, crew cut hair and wearing eyeglasses" by four eyewitnesses, before the killer even reached Jackson Street that night. It may be the case, that the Zodiac Killer's features lie somewhere between Xenophon Anthony and the widely distributed police sketch. Xenophon Anthony was cross checked for fingerprints in the FBI report and ruled out as the contributor to any retrieved from the taxicab of Paul Stine, but his identification by the 8-year-old, assuming the child previously knew Xenophon Anthony, could still be be very useful in validating the accuracy of the sketch supplied from the memories of the three teenagers that night. 

This article has subsequently been developed into a revised version, doubting that the three teenagers ever gave a description to police of a suspect aged 25 to 30 years. See the article The Zodiac Was About 40 in 1969.

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Shawn
3/7/2018 06:51:11 am

I think the first sketch/wanted poster was for a person who might have done a series of cab robberies/murder including Stine. Probably took an average of ages and made up a composite.

The 2nd Wanted Poster and Sketch was for the specifically for the Stine murder.



Shawn
3/7/2018 07:46:13 am

http://i.imgur.com/iFmece8.png

The above is a link to an image of the first article about Stine on Oct. 15, 1969 with a sketch from the Chronicle.

The sketch is not clear but the hair line looks different than the first sketch. The age range given matches the first sketch of 25 to 30.

Richard
3/7/2018 09:08:54 am

That article is the first sketch. Look at the shadow under the lips.
https://nuclearchainsaw.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/zodiac.jpg

Richard
3/7/2018 09:11:05 am

The 2nd sketch is dated 18th. That article is the 15th.

Richard
3/7/2018 09:39:57 am

Think that may be the lot for a while Shawn. There is simply nothing else left to talk about in the Zodiac case anymore.

Judith
3/7/2018 07:20:04 am

I have heard different versions of the updated composite sketch after the original. How do you know that they consulted the teenagers again when they made the new sketch? The updated age range doesn't fit the descriptions from Hartnell and Maguae either. So whose idea was it to update the sketch and the age description?

Richard
3/7/2018 09:04:34 am

The widely held consensus is that the teenagers updated the1st to 2nd sketch, along with what the newspapers said, but I guess unless we were in the room, nobody can prove it. Hartnell didn't see the suspect-only guessed his age from his voice, which is not particularly accurate. I have heard 20 year old's that sound 50, and vice versa.The recollection of Mageau means little unfortunately. He didn't really get any proper look at his attacker. I believe it was Lindsay who had a large part in the updated sketch, as he got the best look at Zodiac. Tahoe may have something to add.

Shawn
3/7/2018 10:45:46 am

Richard Grinell said.....

"Think that may be the lot for a while Shawn. There is simply nothing else left to talk about in the Zodiac case anymore."

Richard,

What does the above statement mean?

Richard
3/7/2018 02:43:54 pm

It's getting a real struggle to find new stories Shawn. It's like running on fumes now. It's very important to create new angles on this case, but it is also very important to stay based in reality, which is something this case deserves. I don't know if you sometimes consider, like I do, that there is only so much to be said on Zodiac. The case is pretty much unsolvable now, and writing articles won't change a thing. Without the cooperation of law enforcement supplying more information, the case is going to remain unsolved forever. I have contacted 10+ law enforcement agencies and four newspapers, and not a single reply, or no thanks. The harsh reality, is they are strapped for cash, and understandably have current cases to work on. They have the info, but no time to work with it. We have the time, and no information. The case is spinning its wheels and their is little progress, if any. Sometimes you just feel you are banging your head against a brick wall, and it's simply not worth the effort. That is my sob story over Shawn. How are you today. I'll probably wake up on the right side of the bed tomorrow- I hope so!

Drew
3/7/2018 03:45:41 pm

Thank you Richard for all you have contributed. I certainly hope you find the inspiration to continue your work here or discover a new passion. I've gushed many times about how helpful your writing has been for me personally and I know many here feel the same. I wish you all the best and I will keep checking back for new stuff and perhaps occasionally try to goad you into investigating those controversial paste cards further and maybe start a fight with Tahoe that I can learn from! Cheers friend

Richard
3/7/2018 04:25:22 pm

Cheers Drew- I won't be going anywhere soon- just struggling for motivation at the moment. I may revise an old article on the 13 hole postcard next mate. Just been going back and correcting numerous grammatical errors in my early articles. Still learning as I go along.
I'll work on that 13 hole thing tomorrow. Cheers, Rich.

Drew
3/7/2018 05:39:52 pm

Excellent!

Tom Moen
3/8/2018 03:12:52 pm

Richard, you have done a great job and much appreciate your efforts.

Richard
3/8/2018 03:30:48 pm

Cheers Tom, and thanks very much for your support to this website.
It's always nice to hear.

Judith
3/7/2018 08:20:45 pm

You can give it a break and sometimes it's necessary and then something will happen and Spark it all up again. I thought law enforcement truly was working on DNA?Nothing? Pretty sure law enforcement gets tired of all the constant phone calls and tips from the public it is absolutely endless everybody and their brother thinks they know who the Zodiac Killer is. It is in their interest to solve this case and would be a great feather in their hat.

Richard
3/8/2018 03:36:59 pm

Sometimes you do need a break Judith. Then you get a second wind. I'm sure law enforcement do get fed up with constant phone calls, letters etc. Most of course will be dead ends, blind alleys, and many crackpots. The problem, is that if somebody did have a genuine lead, it would probably now be dismissed before its even read. It's like the boy who cried wolf. Law enforcement agencies have now probably got fed up with sheer mention of Zodiac.

Connolly
3/8/2018 04:58:10 pm

Richard
With descriptions for all these crime scenes being so varied. The narrative of the random serial killer that L.E. is selling us can not be correct. You have probably addressed this a dozen times before but I would like it if you would repeat for me since I've only been here for a few months. Things would fit together so much better for me if the Zodiac were a hit-man instead. I mean to say that in those days they did not know that these serial killers don't change their mode of operation like Zodiac did. And, this Zodiac character put forward by journalists at Hearst's SF newspapers is very very fishy. And, with there being a motive as we would then have with a hit-man. The cover-up could then be exposed and they could go after the party whom hired the killers. I know they are all dead by now but there could be retribution through the civil court system financially paying back the families and rewriting history to correct the record. The Civil court system does not need anything more than the preponderance of evidence. No DNA needed.

Richard
3/9/2018 01:30:05 am

What I have suggested Connolly is that it is not cast in stone that Zodiac was necessarily one individual in all of the 4 canonical crimes. There is room for doubt in all, particularly at LHR and PH, regarding the bullet casings at LHR and if the testimony of Lindsay is 100% accurate.
But I don't use eyewitness testimony as a case for multiple Zodiac's, because eyewitness testimony is not reliable. Michael Mageau was blinded by a flashlight for a brief second when the man started shooting and stated he only got a profile view. Considering what he described and experienced I really don't have much confidence in his description, nevertheless he described a man possibly 5'8", not blubbery fat, around 195-200lbs, light brown hair, almost blond.
All the descriptions in the article state heavy build, 5'8"-5'8", brown/blond hair, possibly with red tint. Bryan Hartnell described a man "kind of heavy", brownish, dark brown hair, quote "Maybe 5'8" or maybe 5'10", 6 feet, somewhere in there." Claiming he was a bad judge of height. These are not the most compelling descriptions. Zodiac's hair could easily have appeared darker under the mask, shadowed off from the light. But in actual fact all the eyewitnesses have actually stated 5'8", brown hair of some description and heavy build. Using these eyewitness statements to bolster a case for one Zodiac or multiple Zodiac's is inherently flawed. Neither Mageau or Hartnell got any meaningful look at Zodiac, but what is important is that Donald Fouke viewed the Presidio Heights sketch by the three teenagers and didn't say "that looks nothing like the man I saw". He effectively agreed with the facial features, only saying he thought the man was "older and heavier." Coupled with the probable mistaken identity of Xenophon Anthony, it suggests that the killer looks somewhat like the sketch, or close to the picture of Xen at 37. But light brown hair can look many different shades in shadows, artificial lighting and sunlight, or under a hood for that matter. For me anyway Connolly, I never close the door on possibly a second Zodiac involved in one or more of the crimes, but I certainly don't believe a 'team Zodiac' or four separate individuals made into Zodiac. I don't believe a hitman theory either. If Zodiac was a hitman, or any of the crimes were hitmen, then they are probably the worst hitmen in America. All 6 victims in the first three attacks were alive when the perpetrator left, he failed to kill two and the Berryessa attack is more like theater. My overriding belief is Zodiac was one man, but as I said above, if Lindsay's testimony of being with Pelissetti and watching Zodiac approach the top of Cherry, and Donald Fouke got the radio broadcast at 9.58 pm, and took 1 minute to reach Jackson and Maple, then there cannot be one Zodiac at PH. But I suspect something must be awry with either statement, likely Lindsay's. But if both are accurate we have a problem regarding one perpetrator. There are certainly questions to be asked, but my overarching belief is one Zodiac with small reservations.

Connolly
3/9/2018 12:17:38 pm

Do you know who was in the Ott organization?

Richard
3/9/2018 02:02:50 pm

No, I haven't got a clue. Maybe Rubislaw can help.

Rubislaw 32 link
3/9/2018 02:59:40 pm

Hi.....I am only assuming that it was a drug cartel [?].

I am not inclined to think that Zodiac was remotely connected to serious drug deals.

In fact I think that Zodiac ''barely'' drank alcohol...though probably smoked tobacco,like a chimney [!].

Do you,yourself,Connolly, know more on the subject ?

Rubislaw 32 link
3/9/2018 05:39:17 pm

Ah....I think we are talking about East Coast,Jewish,literati...that promoted the experimentation of Psychedelics.

Jonathan Ott and Albert Hofmann,are two.

Ott is still alive,but always being moved on,from wherever he attempts to settle.Even in Columbia [!].

Perhaps they have never been forgiven,for encouraging a generation to ''tune in and drop out'' [?].

''That'' just wasn't Zodiac....he was a motorcar ''junkie''....speed,roads and engines.That fraternity couldn't afford the time to get sidetracked in heavy drugs.

They had already settled on their chosen ''thrill''.

Connolly
3/10/2018 10:51:13 am

I am convinced of collaboration between the rich benefactor and the drunk hit man duo. Robert J. Hunter jr. was "a lifelong member of the Bohemian Club, where in his earlier years he enjoyed performing on Thursday nights." Born May 23, 1922 and died 2013.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=robert-hunter&pid=167440132

Of course I don't have any proof of this - I'm just proposing this as a logical deduction for further conversation. I am thinking jr. used different guys as actors in his rite of passage murders. The Cremation of Care ritual that he performed was all about murdering a baby that these rich creeps named Care. He was in the wine biz and butted up against Bill Grant for his property. I can see how this Kane was potentially used in that scenario. Please round off the rough edges of this idea that we have heard before in different name. By the by thanks for the research you did on the drug connection Rubislaw32.

KayElleSF
3/10/2018 01:59:51 pm

Wow, the enhanced pic of Anthony and the colorized sketch bear a remarkable likeness. I find it really interesting that the eight-year-old identified him by name. It's hard to dismiss. The world of an eight-year-old is pretty small so the fact that he recognized him (or thought he did) is significant. By the time I was eight, I was fulling capable of recognizing familiar adults. Seems the kid had no hesitation with his claim. I wonder if he said, "Hey, there's Xenophon wiping down that cab". Trippy shit.

It also seems like we're going through a dry spell with Z information as of late. I'm hoping that with the publicity of the 50th Anniversary of LHR in December, new facts will come to light.

It's going to be hard to accept that the Zodiac murders may never be solved but I'm no where near believing it's all said and done just yet.

Someone's gotta know something!...or so it would seem.

Richard
3/11/2018 12:51:57 am

Yes KayElle, even if the 8-year old was mistaken, then he thought that the suspect looked like Xenophon, which is a clue in itself. If the 8-year old didn't actually see the man in the taxicab, it is still important information- yet the FBI file did state "witness in murder", not man seen generally in the area around 10.00 pm.
It is very difficult continually working with old material, with no major developments in the case, and this gives the impression the case is stagnating. The History Channel while revitalizing interest in the case to the general public, it tended to revisit tired and old subjects with less than useful conclusions, for example, the Mount Diablo scenario and rehashing the taxicab meter, and focusing too much on well documented suspects with little or no solid evidence to tie them to Zodiac, especially when they seemed to ignore the substantial height difference between Sullivan and Kane, even though they pushed the height angle for Sullivan originally. The undeniable difficulty in getting new material from the police vaults is not helping anyone.

Rubislaw 32 link
3/10/2018 05:32:02 pm

I would say,that it is ''pretty happening'',KayElleSF.

And Richard's site,where it is most happening,at present [?].

Perhaps just a personal opinion....but,I think most people have ''picked up'',from the disappointment of the History Channel series.

It wasn't the end if the world,but I feel that the real enthusiasts have realised that they are going to have to be more ''industrious'',if they want more understanding,out of the case.

There was a sense that the T.V. series was going to offer us,something on a plate [?].

For many of us,I would suggest that it was ''embarrassing'' [?].

Until there is an arrest,or official explanation of the case,we will never think,that we have enough,to go on.

The reality is,that the case of the Zodiac Killer,has put more information,into the public domain,than any criminal case in history.

But,we still want more !!

That's just human nature [?].

KayElleSF
3/10/2018 07:47:42 pm

Yes, Rubi, Richard is amazing with the amount of solid info he presents to us. Thank you, Richard!

I guess I was referring to some "big news" or a breakthrough that gets us closer to solving this damnable whodunnit.

Anyway, I appreciate your take on things as usual.

Rubislaw 32 link
3/11/2018 01:27:48 am

I do believe that there will be some form of resolution to the case,KayElleSF.

It's just ''the when''.

Last night I dreamt that there was to be a big court case,planned for June....with $15 million set aside of tax payers money,to pay for it.

Oh dear.

Would be nice to think that ''the authorities'' appreciate our work,and understand our frustrations [?].

Connolly
3/12/2018 12:21:18 pm

Rubislaw32

Judge Raymond J. Sherwin was a Sierra Club Leader

Is this the one holding everything back?

Connolly
3/12/2018 06:27:27 pm

Judge Raymond J. Sherwin was the President of the Sierra Club
Sept. 6, 1981 - Former Judge Raymond J. Sherwin of the San Francisco Superior Court, who served two terms as national president of the Sierra Club, died here yesterday.

Did this man give cover to the Zodiac?
Was it an injunction?
Were we supposed to peek through the pines to see the Sierra Club?

Rubislaw 32 link
3/12/2018 07:28:17 pm

Yes Connolly....Judge Sherwin certainly appears to tie in,with what O have previously mentioned.

Matters came to a head,with L.E.'s heavy handed harassment of Grant,when Judge Sherwin found an intruder,in his parked car,rifling through the dash board locker.

On challenging the intruder,the intruder turned on Sherwin,and beat him unconscious.

Sherwin was Marion Grant's boss,and lover,at the time.So,one can understand why L.E. gave Grant,a hard time over this incident.

When Sherwin was recovering in hospital,he gave details of the incident,to the police...including his recollection,that the intruder was about 25 years of age.Grant was then 51,so the cops finally realised that the intruder couldn't have been Grant.

But,with all the furore over the incident,Marion and Grant made up....and Marion assured her husband that she would use her legal connections,at work,to see if they could ''sue'' the cops for harassment.

So,Marion ''stood by her man'',in his hour of need.

Again,we should ask the question,why Marion had a nervous breakdown,following Grants court victory over the cops [?].

The implication,so it would seem,is that Grant had saved telling Marion the whole truth......until he had actually stopped the cops,from ever bothering him again.

Poor,poor Marion [?].

Rubislaw 32 link
3/13/2018 01:36:27 am

''Were we supposed to peek through the pines to see the Sierra Club'' [?].

That's an interesting question,Connolly,and the answer I can give is,let us say,an educated guess.

Lyndon Lafferty has intimated,that those that knew the Grants,used to use this expression,with reference to the Grant's property on Cordelia Road,Fairfield.The property that no one could see from the road.

My guess is that Zodiac realised that the Grant's often went up to their chalet,at weekends....which would include socialising,as members of The Sierra Club.

So,it was at weekends,mostly,that Zodiac would gain access to their Fairfield property,for the likes of trawling through Grant's trash cans,for information on him.Zodiac may even have broken in to Grant's house [?].

All for the purposes of putting him [Zodiac],in advantageous positions,to further persecute Grant,by ''fitting'' Grant up for Zodiac's crimes.

And the Pines card,is really just an extension of this persecution,by ''telegraphing'' to the police...that Grant was the man,that they were seeking.


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