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RICHARD GRINELL, COVENTRY, ENGLAND
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A RE-EXAMINATION OF THE PINES POSTCARD [PART THREE]

5/28/2024

 
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This is the third and final instalment re-examining the Pines postcard (March 22nd 1971), and determining whether the pasted "Sierra Club" and punch-hole were really designed to point us toward the deposition or burial site of Donna Lass, using the measurement of inches and a map scale as the conduit. This idea was rejected by some commenters on VT Squire's Reddit post regarding my analysis of the postcard as a directional tool.

​Wolf4968 stated "Does anyone really think the Zodiac, or the hoaxer/card sender, sat and measured cards by the hundredth inch, thinking, "There's the skeleton key to this whole thing, that they'll never figure out!!!".? Really?" The Zodiac Killer took the time to create at least 30 communications and mail them to the newspapers, he encrypted several messages in ciphers and codes, using a period 19 shift in his design of the 340 cipher, and mailed a Phillips 66 Map and code, challenging us with "P.S. The Mt. Diablo code concerns Radians + # inches along the radians" so we could unearth his bomb. So does Wolf4968 think that the Zodiac Killer would really sit down and measure the distance in inches between two points on a postcard using a standard classroom ruler, that would take but a few seconds? 

The more important question is determining whether the punch-hole on the Pines postcard was intended to identify a deposition or burial location, and was its positioning relative to the pasted "Sierra Club" of any significance? What we do know is that the Clair Tappaan Lodge "Sierra Club" on Donner Pass Road is directly in line (on the east-west axis) with the location of Chubb Lake where the jawbone of Donna Lass was found on
December 31st 1985. The pasted "Sierra Club" on the postcard is also perfectly aligned with the punch-hole on the east-west axis. The distance between the center of the punch-hole and pasted "Sierra Club" was 2.19 inches (2 3/16 inches}, which equated to 14.02 miles using the map scale of 6.4 miles to the inch. This was the distance (by crow) between Clair Tappaan Lodge and the location of Donna's remains near Chubb Lake (to within a few hundred meters).

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​It must be noted that after the jawbone and teeth were discovered on December 31st 1985, Sheriff Donald A. Nunes stated that a more detailed search would be conducted on January 4th 1986 looking for more remains at the 5,300 feet elevation. Later in January a skull was discovered near to where the jawbone was found.

The area close to the eastern side of Chubb Lake sits at an elevation between 5,300 and 5,400 feet, so matches the elevation described by Sheriff Nunes and the location of the jawbone described in the newspaper as "found in 2 inches of snow, a mile northeast of Interstate 80 by Melvin Bennett, who along with his son was enroute to fish at the reservoir".
 Yuba Gap sits at an elevation of 5,790 feet, Yuba Pass sits at 6,710 feet and Emigrant Gap sits at 5,200 feet. Despite these observations, we need to go further and see if the Zodiac Killer did anything else to support the notion that he identified burial or deposition sites using directional markers.

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Sometime in May 1971, the Zodiac Killer mailed the 148 character cipher and letter, using language straight out of the Ed Gein handbook, when he wrote "I will skin three little kids and make a suit from the skin", and "I will send a patch of human skin if their is some left over". Ed Gein, known as "The Butcher of Plainfield", dug up corpses from the cemetery to make an array of ghastly household objects from human skin, and began to fashion a "woman suit" so "he could become his dead mother and literally crawl into her skin". So when the Zodiac Killer threatened to "skin three kids and make a suit from the skin", it is almost certain he was referring to the murdered Kathy Snoozy, Debra Furlong and Kathy Bilek, who, he was not only claiming as his victims, but who he was threatening to dig up from the cemetery, just like Ed Gein previously.

This theme of burial sites would continue on July 13th 1971, when the Zodiac Killer mailed the Monticello card with pasted text, stating "Near Monticello Shought Victims 21 ...... In The Woods Dies April". The postcard was referring to Kathy Bilek, who was stabbed in the Villa Montalvo woods in Saratoga (near Monticello in San Jose) on April 11th 1971. Kathy Snoozy was buried in the Oak Hill Memorial Park & Cemetery in the Monticello neighborhood of San Jose. The Zodiac Killer used the phonetic namesake of Kathy Bilek and the location of Monticello to identify the burial location of Kathy Snoozy, who he had previously claimed alongside Debra Furlong on November 8th 1969.

​Somebody would later visit the cemetery housing Kathy Snoozy on September 18th 1973 and remove a tombstone from the grounds, placing it at the front gates with the pseudonym "Zodiac" scrawled on it. We don't know for certain whose tombstone it was, but it doesn't take much guessing. This person had desecrated a gravesite at the Oak Hill Memorial Park & Cemetery, but thankfully they fell short of removing body parts from the depths. 

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When the Zodiac Killer wrote in the Los Angeles letter on March 13th 1971, stating "The reason I'm writing to the Times is this, They don't bury me on the back pages like some of the others", I am not sure he was aware that "burial" was to become a feature of all his next three communications. The overlapping features in the Pines postcard and Monticello card are fairly obvious from the standpoint of directional markers. The Pines postcard contained "pass Lake Tahoe areas", "Sierra Club" and "around in the snow". The Monticello card had "in the woods". and "near Monticello".

We know that Kathy Bilek's body was found "in the woods near Monticello", so it's likely the body of Donna Lass would have been found "around in the snow" near the "Sierra Club" had she been discovered in March 1971. The remains of Donna Lass were found approximately 14 miles from the Sierra Club. The remains of Kathy Snoozy were buried nearly 10 miles from the Villa Montalvo woods. The Monticello card was identifying the location of Kathy Bilek's body in the Villa Montalvo woods in Saratoga, by using the Monticello gravesite of Kathy Snoozy as the directional tool. The Pines postcard also contained two key markers by having the "Sierra Club" location and the punch-hole to identify the "burial" site of Donna Lass. Hopefully, this goes someway to showing how "burial locations" and "body sites" would become the main focus of the Zodiac Killer in 1971. The 148 character cipher/letter and Monticello card were simply continuing the theme of the Pines postcard, mailed on March 22nd 1971. If the Monticello card is ever released to the public it will be curious to see what positions relative to one another the Zodiac Killer pasted the wording "in the woods" and "Monticello", and the distance between them. Or whether it was unnecessary in this instance because he named Monticello.  

A RE-EXAMINATION OF THE PINES POSTCARD [PART ONE)
A RE-EXAMINATION OF THE PINES POSTCARD [PART TWO]


Chubb Lake provides the Scouts with some activities but that doesn't include motor boating and waterskiing, which are conducted as a Hi-Adventure activity at nearby Lake Spaulding. A notable point about Chubb Lake is that it is approximately 30 feet deep in the middle and therefore one of the warmest lakes in the Sierras. Chubb Lake supports fishing, sailing, rowboating, canoing and swimming.
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ALLOWING SOME LEEWAY IN THE STATEMENT "A MILE NORTHEAST OF INTERSTATE 80"
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Johnny
5/30/2024 07:24:30 am

"Near Monticello Shought Victims 21 ...... In The Woods Dies April"

Just some brainstorming, Rick... In the woods ( Sherwood Klingel? Sherwood forest/ Friar Puck in St. Helena newspaper? )

Why is Zodiac this interested in San Jose? Was he born and raised
there and feels it is his personal territory do what he
pleases with and get extremely jealous when other people get
attention?

Is their just a coincidence between Sherwoods death in 2007 and the finding that year of the Eureka card? Did someone get nervous? How did Sherwood die? His cremated ashes long gone, and when did he decide he wanted his ashes thrown away like that?

By the way, i noticed in a San Fransisco newspaper a man named Paul Doer ( yes, just with one "r" this time ) writing in about Muni buses. If anyone have a subscription, you can check this out and see
if my memory is correct.

By the way, Friar Puck might have something with old NHL to do, something i read.

Richard
5/30/2024 08:50:23 am

The problem is Johnny, whoever we believe Zodiac was, he certainly wasn't Karl Francis Werner. Therefore, the pasted text of "in the woods" was pretty much governed by facts which the Zodiac had no control over, because Kathy Bilek was murdered in the woods at Villa Montalvo. The Zodiac gravitated to her through the newspaper coverage of Snoozy & Furlong. So was Zodiac really interested or connected to San Jose? He could have been, but I believe his only interest in San Jose was the two murders on August 3rd 1969 that received the front page coverage in the San Francisco Chronicle that had eluded him. Everything aftterwards just kept up the facade he had a hand in their murders, including the phone call on December 19th 1969 to the San Jose Highway Patrol. The words pasted on the Monticello card were pretty self-explanatory, such as "woods", "April", "victim", and "Monticello", so reading beyond this isn't really necessary in this instance.

The Eureka card was discovered on March 3rd 2007, so the death of Sherwood Klingel on May 3rd 2007 in Santa Rosa is only 2 months subsequent to the card's discovery, is unusual timing. I doubt there is anything sinister in the timing or manner of his death at 79. But in a cursory search I couldn't find the cause of his death. If he died in a bullet riddled car at midnight, it would certainly get my attention.

Johnny
5/30/2024 09:47:20 am

I agree with your comment on "woods". San Jose i don't know yet.
It might be something there, maybe not. I get suspicious when these oddballs get obsessive about some place. But if it is only about the murders and not about the place, then you are certainly correct and im wrong. Blue house wasnt that in san Jose also. Maybe not Zodiac though, i don't believe he did much besides the writings and the known murders. But if writing could be angled towards a special place, then i get my ears stiff.

The death date of Sherwood i find
interesting despite his age ( but i would want to know when he himself got news if ever about the found letter ofcourse. I think he then would be very fast to disappear ), if it's a suicide, but a real stretch to go from Chester to him in any instance. Sherwood from what i have read was an outgoing type
of personality. Seems rather private though in his obituary and the way he wanted to be cremated and get in the water? and that combination could be suspicious. Where was his old friends then?

He lived in Oakland a while from what i have read. I can't find it now, but i believe i found his name connected to the baseball team ( and if he was, then the suspcicion goes more towards Chester i would think ), but this is not to be trusted, and also, he was something of a hotshot, wasn't he? He seems to have partied with the celebrities somewhat according to newspapers.

Richard
5/30/2024 10:39:49 am

I typed Sherwood Klingel into newspapers.com for 2007, but found absolutely nothing. If I find anything relevant for other years I'll let you know.

Richard
5/30/2024 10:53:54 am

Yes, he partied at Francesco's restaurant in Oakland in 1978 (the year of the "I am back" letter ), celebrating the 2nd anniversary of his employment at Expo Insurance Brokers Inc.

Johnny
5/30/2024 11:22:03 am

No, he had a connection to the elite in Oakland. How much and in exactly what way i don't know. He is mentioned in the paper of his connections, but i don't think in his full name. I came to it in some other way. He owned a restaurant/ bar in Oakland according to
Voight?, and ofcourse in that way you can come to know certain people.

Anyway, i will not disturb you anymore now. I will sign up
to newspaper archive myself aswell as of tonight and search
what i can. Thanks for your search, all your answers and a really great site! Hi to all other people on the site reading this aswell.

I think it might be C. Klingel who did all this, but if not, the only chance might be DNA, and if its him law enforcement still need DNA i believe to prove it. For myself i only need something more to be sure its him. I wonder how Sherwoods writing looks like? Any american citizen that can check this in some way? I have seen Chesters young writing at Voights site and i am personally a not good enough judger of it. Anyone else?

With Tarbox death maybe we lost our chance. I don't see anything much in the interviews with him that dismisses C.Klingel as a suspect. I would want to know more about the french mediterranean look though. C.Klingel seemed to have some colours, a photogenic face and a darkblonde hair, maybe even brown later on, but isnt french mediterranean almost the look of the great Julio Iglesias? I guess he was a sunburnt ( from the sea ) dark blonded man almost brownette and Tarbox thought him accelerating almost to the place of Mr. Iglesias, who knows.

Johnny
5/30/2024 12:31:38 pm

Yeah, just a few notes more to confirm certain things.

Richard was right with Francesco's. I may or may not seen
something else, but it might also end with this.

John Doer which i mentioned, you may find his writings in Examiner 28 October 1971 page 42. Is this John Doerr, i think it might be someone else aswell.

Friar Tuck/ Puck that i mentioned may come to this book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1066_and_All_That
( The writers changed the Tuck to Puck, i guess to make up some
schadenfreude or if the englishmen calls it witticism when its milder )


I just saved an article from Oakland tribune about Sherwood Klingel
from 1957 ( february 12 ), it say's he got transfered from "San Jose" to Oakland by Firemans fund as a special agent.


I will continue searching and if anything comes up connected to all this let you all know.

Richard
5/30/2024 12:37:30 pm

People may already know this, because I am no expert on Chester Clark Klingel, but his son, Chester Clark Klingel III, died in a motor vehicle accident on April 24th 1986. He was buried with military honours in the Presidio National Cemetery in San Francisco. So if Chester Clark Klingel was the Zodiac Killer he would end up burying his son in the very park he escaped into in 1969. Two weeks after his son died, the 1986 Zodiac letter arrived on May 6th. Who said there ain't coincidences. The cemetery address is 1 Lincoln Blvd.
San Francisco, California.

Richard
5/30/2024 12:46:33 pm

The mother of Chester Clarrk Klingel, Alice Marjorie Stewart Klingel, died August 29th 1975 was also buried in the Presidio cemetery.

Richard
5/30/2024 12:50:25 pm

As was his father, Chester Clark Klingel Snr, who died May 3rs 1958. So Chester (Eureka keys man) certainly knew the Presidio.

Richard
5/30/2024 12:59:01 pm

I'm sure this will already have been noted on the forums but I am not going to trawl through 100+ pages to check.

Richard
5/30/2024 09:25:38 am

The area surrounding Chubb Lake and Lake Spaulding has Grouse Ridge Trail, Blue Lake Campground, Spaulding Lake Trail, Clyde Mountain, the South Fork of the Yuba River, Lodgepole Campground, Lake Valley Reservoir, Fordyce Creek Bridge, Emigrant Gap Overlook and the Camp Marin Scout Campground. This area was extremely popular, which makes it extremely likely the killer of Donna knew this area, bearing in mind the countless remote featurless locations enroute to this area he could have disposed of her body. But because he wasn't familiar with them it provides the unknown element, and murderers often choose disposal sites they have previously visited. The killer may have been known to people who frequented the area around Lake Spaulding or worked in the local eateries and lodges. He would have had friends who likely knew his hobbies and interests. If the murderer of Donna was the Zodiac Killer, he may have befriended her in 1970, on one of his many trips to Lake Tahoe.

The airport in the Sierra Nevada mountains just south of Lake Tahoe opened in 1959 with a 5900-ft runway. Beginning in 1962 it had a few airline flights: the first were on Futura Airlines, an intrastate airline, and on Paradise Airlines, both flying Lockheed L-049 Constellations. In 1963, Paradise was operating three daily flights between Lake Tahoe and Oakland and San Jose in the Bay Area with some flights occasionally being operated with Douglas DC-3 aircraft instead of the Constellation. Paradise then ceased operations after a fatal accident in the mountains near Lake Tahoe.

Pacific Air Lines arrived in 1964 with Fairchild F-27 turboprops. That summer, Lake Tahoe was a stop on an F-27 "milk run" service: Pacific flight 771 operated Reno-Lake Tahoe-Sacramento-San Francisco-San Jose-Fresno-Bakersfield-Los Angeles-San Diego. In 1966, Pacific started the first jet service to Lake Tahoe, Boeing 727-100s flying Los Angeles (LAX)-San Jose-Lake Tahoe. A 1966 Pacific Air Lines route map depicted nonstop 727 service to San Francisco (SFO) and Reno.


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