ZODIAC ADMITTED 340 NOT A REAL CIPHER [PT2]

6/5/2018

THE 340 CIPHER WAS CRACKED ON DECEMBER 3RD 2020 BY DAVE ORANCHAK, SAM BLAKE AND JARL VAN EYCKE, SO THIS EARLIER ARTICLE SHOULD BE VIEWED IN RESPECT TO RECENT DEVELOPMENTS.

This is a continuation from the previous article 'Zodiac Admitted 340 Not a Real Cipher.'
You will notice that the paradice and slaves configuration from the Halloween card fits nicely into the 340 cipher.
The two dashes on the 10th line are represented by the letter S.
The left-facing V on the 9th column and 10th line are represented by the letter E.
The two addition signs on the 9th column are represented by the letter A.
When the letter R of paradice is placed into its only conceivable position, along with the L and V from slaves, it is reminiscent of the Halloween card. What are the chances that this could be achieved accidentally?

The word paradice travels vertically 17 lines, exactly matching the 17 columns that slaves travels horizontally. The Zodiac Killer placed crosshairs beneath the 9th column, the midsection of the cipher (shown here). The intersection on the Halloween card configuration forms RAD and LAV, exactly the same as the bisecting center point of the 340 cipher. The Zodiac Killer also underlined the LAV of Paul Averly on the Halloween card envelope, on which he also placed the intersecting "sorry no cipher" on the envelope inner.

The Halloween card stamp depicts the surface of the moon with a half-earth in the distance and the words "In the beginning God". This phrase fits perfectly on the 1st line (the beginning) of the 340 cipher, with the 15th, 16th and 17th characters uncannily similar to the word GOD (the O in half phase just like the image on the stamp).

ZODIAC ADMITTED 340 NOT A REAL CIPHER [PT3]
ZODIAC ADMITTED 340 NOT A REAL CIPHER [PT1]

Drew

6/5/2018 07:41:47 am

This is certainly tightening up Richard. It would seal it for me if we could magically see a formation of By Fire and so forth vertically on the sides rather than connecting the letters in the four quadrants but the Holt comic influence is still very intriguing. Paradice Slaves of course works here independent of the comic or the card. In the beginning there was God I have heard before but never the connection to the stamp - very nice observation. The odds of these links being unintentional are not astronomical but it's definitely the best out there. At this point I think we would all be shocked if a legit substitution solution emerged. Also while I see the Holt influence on the card clear as day it would surprise me if the comic was on his mind doing the 340 unless the Zodiac campaign is importantly related to Colorado Springs which is the only concrete thing I can imagine the Red Ryder business could mean.

This won't be helpful at all but the first impression I got from the symbol on the envelope with the Z underneath is a menacing cartoon face. The dots are eyes with horns above a widow's peak and the Z below forms a nose and mouth, integrated into the letters ZF as in Zan Francisco. I can imagine him putting this there just for its aesthetic value but repeating this symbol on the inner next to a Z and a zodiac symbol seems incoherent, as if he is signing his name three times. The best theory about that symbol though is the flying VF bar branding symbol for Fred Harmon's Colorado Springs Red Ryder ranch.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/zodiackillerfr/found-it-by-fire-by-gun-by-knife-by-rope-t7089-s50.html

Richard

6/5/2018 08:44:18 am

The ZF symbol cattle branding, Colorado and Fred Harman certainly cements the theory Drew. It certainly would close the deal if the Fire, Gun, Knife and Rope elements could be found. I always wondered if these four methods of death were linked to the four dots around the strange ZF symbol. The only other thing I've found relates to the Apollo 8 stamp and Cartesian coordinates.
Cartesian coordinates (an element of real n-space) specify the point in an n-dimensional Euclidean space for any dimension. They are represented by an X, Y and Z (x and y in plane) and (x,y and z in space). This is a transcript from the Apollo 8 journal "004:49:44 Anders (onboard): It's about - in the XYZ plane, it's about 10 degrees [garble]. Yes, right out here [garble]."
I considered the X and Y as relevant to the 340 cipher, in terms of the X and Y axis.
X being the horizontal axis of slaves. Y being the vertical axis of paradice. The Z could be a play on "a point in space", or simply Zodiac's signature. But how do we get the XYZ?
X is formed by "sorry no cipher" twice on the inner of the envelope.
If we consider the Halloween card featured a 14 on the skeleton hand, a 4-TEEN on the card inner written in a different format, then why cant the F (of the symbol) also equal Fourteen or 14. If we take the other part as 7 (and 4 dots), then we have 7+14+4=25=Y.
We now have XYZ and the Cartesian coordinates of space. All on the envelope. Now that is way out there (or possibly pushing the envelope).The Zodiac also placed the strange symbol on the card inner with the Z symbol alongside, cementing the idea that the Z was integral to the design.
X- SLAVES
Y- PARADICE
Z- ZODIAC (at foot of cipher)

Little List letter:
"I shall on top of everything else torture all 13 of my slaves that I have waiting for me in Paradice" Zodiac.
Paradice and slaves configuration =13.

Richard

6/5/2018 09:56:30 am

"004:49:44 Anders (onboard): It's about - in the XYZ plane, it's about 10 degrees [garble]. Yes, right out here [garble]."

Earthrise is a photograph of the Earth (depicted on Halloween card envelope) and parts of the Moon's surface taken from lunar orbit by astronaut William Anders in 1968, during the Apollo 8 mission.

Richard

6/5/2018 03:45:47 pm

The more I look at the Halloween symbol, I don't think it looks like a 7, Z or F. The shapes look wrong. If we can crack this symbol, this may open everything up.

Karen C

6/10/2018 02:25:22 am

Drew, have you checked out the partial solution presented by John Rose on Richard's site?

https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/340-cipher-9x9-grid-by-john-rose

Drew

6/10/2018 09:16:09 am

Yes I have Karen. It is quite interesting in my opinion. I remember being struck by the concept of a message starting on the 6th line where the K is corrected. If such unorthodox funny business is going on in this thing that is where I would expect it to be.

I also see a lot of value in the approach shown on this page as well, perhaps more because it doesn't involve decryption. I don't think there is anything to properly decrypt here, but if Zodiac made an improper cipher with another cutesy nonsense solution I think he would want his audience to eventually get the joke - so leaving it essentially hidden in plain sight in the symbols like shown here seems worthy of consideration. I think it is obvious that we are supposed to notice what looks like his moniker at the bottom and search for more. It would of course seem a stronger possibility if the Halloween card was sent before this cipher but I haven't seen anything more compelling... other than the idea that there is no message to be found at all.

It has never seemed like Zodiac ever really had any message of substance to convey. Though he likely had a lot of grievances about the world he never used his spotlight to talk about anything in my opinion. He would have seemed quite lame I think if investigators revealed another 'I like killing' type message. It would have harmed the mystique he'd risked so much to create.

My easy boring opinion at the end of the day I'm afraid is that the 'bad news they wouldn't get for a while' teased on the dripping pen card is that like everything he did after Oct 11 the 'cipher' is intended merely to waste investigators' time. The joke I think is that he spent only a fraction of the time it must have taken to make the legit 408 and just indiscriminately chose random symbols throughout and then halfway through he decided to add a little symmetry on line 10 [- + -] and the near zodiac at the bottom to make it seem like more was going on.

Though challenged to prove his crypto-mastery after his 408 cipher was quickly solved he had absolutely no reason to attempt a real cipher for real experts or provide even a shred of personal information to the police. I also find it hard to believe that he made the 408 cipher easy to solve and then employed truly sophisticated ciphering skills a couple months later. When he asked months later in the Apr 70 letter how they were doing with his last cipher I think he was mocking them for apparently falling for his ruse. I wish I didn't feel so cynical about it but that is where my mind is currently. We who seek serious solutions to the 340 I'm afraid have become the real slaves he sought. That said it is a fun kind of torture and I'm going to keep looking!

Karen C

6/10/2018 04:51:48 pm

I think you are spot on with what you say about it being a ruse. But I also think your cynicism is not allowing you to see beyond the idea of chronology.

Just because an idea came after another idea in terms of the Zodiac mailing his correspondence, does not mean they are not related.

We do not know the actual order in which he wrote things down, and he may have kept some kind of stockpile of notes, or a journal/notebook of random notes, which he kept referring back to later. Or he may have retained all this garbage in his troubled and obsessed mind and kept regurgitating the same ideas over and over.

The continuity of ideas is perhaps the key to understanding the Zodiac correspondence as a whole.

It would be very unwise to dismiss the connectivity of ideas presented in the Zodiac's correspondence on the basis of chronology alone. I wrote more about this in my reply below.

Drew

6/10/2018 05:57:46 pm

You may be right Karen about the Halloween Card being a long planned correspondence and that there is a more intricate personal design to the campaign then I have assumed. I mostly consider the stuff he sent to be an extremely effective attention-grabbing distraction fantasy. To me he seems self-trained in the art of deception, but because it was so elaborate and seemingly unnecessary I agree that there must be more to his motivation than simply eluding the cops. Unless he was closely connected to Darlene Ferrin the police seemingly had nothing to go on until he started supplying them with clues. I believe the persona he created or the attention he hoped to receive from it meant something to him, but because I see nothing political beyond anti-police I can't imagine the purpose. Whether the paradise slaves business on the Halloween card was more than a fictional crazy motif and a reference to prove the card was from the Zodiac who used such language earlier is anyone's guess.

Regarding the construction date of the Halloween Card and the possible intention behind it, Avery was writing about him being a 'clumsy criminal' by October 18 69 so Zodiac may have prepared it and the envelope with an apology for not sending a cipher, then decided to start preparing a cipher after all which he ultimately sent first.

Karen C

6/11/2018 02:20:22 am

Drew, your comment is one of the most eloquent and intelligent comments I have read on a forum in a long time. I think you are spot on with everything you say. I have nothing to add because I agree with everything that you have written. Yes there does seem to be some quasi-religious stuff that he kept regurgitating, but at the same time there is an overwhelming sense of chicanery which tends to be at complete odds with the theological/philosophical ramblings. Using Occams Razor, the most likely explanation is that he was being disingenuous and the taunts, expressions of intellect, and the putting on of airs, were more important.

Drew

6/11/2018 07:22:53 am

Thank you so much Karen! I've enjoyed our discussion.

Richard

6/5/2018 10:44:04 am

If you look at the strange symbol Drew, it looks more like a 7 than a Z.
If you google 7F you eventually get the history of "punched tape".
Punched tape or perforated paper tape is a form of data storage, consisting of a long strip of paper in which holes are punched to store data. Now effectively obsolete, it was widely used during much of the twentieth century for teleprinter communication, for input to computers of the 1950s and 1960s, and later as a storage medium for minicomputers and CNC machine tools. Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_tape

This reminded me of the previous 13 Hole postcard. After all, there four black dots around the 7F.
This code was originally used to mark deleted characters on punched tape, since any character could be changed to all ones by punching holes everywhere. If a character was punched erroneously, punching out all seven bits caused this position to be ignored or deleted, a computer version of correction fluid.[2][3] In hexadecimal, this is 7F to rubout 7 bits, and FF to rubout 8 bits. For teleprinters like the Teletype Model 33, lines were commonly ended by the three characters CR, LF, and rubout, with the rubout allowing time for the print mechanism to physically move to the left margin. Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delete_character

Richard

6/5/2018 10:48:34 am

Doesn't get us anywhere, unless Zodiac wanted to rub out 4 victims by Knife, Gun, Rope and Fire.

Shawn

6/6/2018 06:42:18 am

We must not forget the Apollo 8 rocket lifted off December 21, 1968 at 4:51 Pacific time, about 5 hours after the LHR attack.

I do not know if the News of Apollo 8 launch and the LHR attack shared the front page of the Benecia or Vallejo paper morning paper.

Be interesting to know.

Maybe the 13 hole Card or Halloween card is some type of reference to LHR or Zodiac becoming Zodiac.

Shawn

6/6/2018 06:45:11 am

Another thing...

The Apollo 8 stamp has "In the Beginning". So it could be a reference to Zodiac's first attack at LHR.

Rubislaw 32 link

6/8/2018 01:59:16 pm

Nice one Shawn...that you have highlighted Zodiac's choice of postage stamps,on the Halloween Card.....and,the possible implications of the Apollo missions,in general.

Apollo 8 was the first manned spacecraft to orbit another celestial body [...the moon..],and therefore takes on importance,second only to first moon landing Apollo 11.

We could illustrate,thus :

LHR : December 20th 1968

Apollo 8 : December 21st 1968 - December 27th 1968

Apollo 9 : March 3rd 1969 - March 13th 1969

Apollo 10 : May 18th 1969 - May 26th 1969

BRS : July 5th 1969

Apollo 11 : July 16th 1969 - July 24th 1969 [...1st Moon Landing..]

Lake Berryessa : September 27th 1969

Paul Stine : October 11th 1969

Apollo 12 : November 14th 1969 - November 24th 1969

Apollo 13 : April 11th 1970 - April 17th 1970

Halloween Card : October 27th 1970 [....with Apollo 8 postage...]

Apollo 14 : January 31st 1971 - February 9th 1971

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So,there may be significance with the Apollo 8 postage,both in timing of LHR,and that it represented a ''new beginning'',with first real engagement of a celestial body.

But,more particularly,it appears to start alerting us,to the possiblity,that Zodiac was,indeed,a stamp collector.

This adds credulity to Zodiac being the creator of the ''cut and paste'' correspondences,since the likelihood of patience,skill and correct tools,to be able to perform the ''cut and paste'' work [?].

In addition,that Zodiac was,in all probability,more of an amateur astronomer,than a fan of its paganistic spin-offs,like astrology [?].

Rubislaw 32 link

6/5/2018 12:20:46 pm

Strange,but true :

I am currently working on a theory that Zodiac intended the back of his envelope,employed to send Melvin Belli,to be a clever display of lettering,that involved ''WXYZ'' and ''LMNO''.

So,although the casual reader might be forgiven,for believing that some of us are disappearing up our own ''place where the sun don't shine'',there may sometimes,actually be methods in our madness.

He who dares,wins [?].

Richard

6/5/2018 03:20:08 pm

He who dares, wins Rubi.
The WXYZ are certainly lurking there. This correspondence was undoubtedly the neatest writing the Zodiac ever fashioned, proving he was capable of writing neatly. Like you stated, he seemed to raise his literary standards in accordance with the person he was writing to. Melvin Belli was a prominent lawyer and so Zodiac appeared to put on his airs and graces wishing him a happy Christmas. His writing started wavering towards the end however.
Your W suggestion reminded me of an old detective called Ellery Queen. Here is some of the stuff I found.
Three early novels written by Ellery Queen were called The Tragedy of X (1931), The Tragedy of Y (1932) and The Tragedy of Z (1933), all employing the solving of crypyic clues, messages, mathematics and numbers in the fight against crime.
One of Ellery Queen's novels was the The Scarlet Letters (1953), involving a cryptic alphabet clue. This novel features Dirk and Martha Lawrence, a couple with problems. Martha is arranging secret romantic meetings with an actor called Van Harrison. These meetings are scheduled by using innocent looking envelopes, that contained only a date, a time and a sequential number of the alphabet, not unlike the Halloween Card.
These letters continued throughout the alphabet until the letter W, by which time Dirk Lawrence had discovered his wife's adultery. He follows them back to Van Harrison's home where he shoots both of them. Martha Lawrence survives, but Van Harrison is killed. Just before he dies he writes an X and Y on the room wall in his own blood, the significance of which Ellery Queen must figure out.

Rubislaw 32 link

6/5/2018 03:56:51 pm

Fascinating stuff,Richard,and I will certainly look into the Ellery Queen,in more detail.

With Belli's envelope,if Zodiac had started ''Mery Xmass'',with ''A'',and employing the first letters of both ''LMNO'',and ''WXYZ''.....Zodiac could have presented the top line,as reading : ''LAW''.

One wonders if their is a place for ''ABCD'' in this hypothetical puzzle,that never actually materialised [?].

Rubislaw 32 link

6/5/2018 12:36:30 pm

How come Zodiac wishes Melvin '' a happy Christmass '',and then he wishes Melvin '' Mery Xmass & New Year '' ??

Not just the Halloween Card,where there is mischievousness at work,with the envelope,and its contents,in mind [?].

Rubislaw 32 link

6/5/2018 01:29:23 pm

I believe that,with the Halloween envelope,Zodiac fulfilled his goals....and we are forever trying to work out what he intended.

With Melvin Belli's envelope....that he had greater plans,that he aborted.....believing that he ought to show Belli,more respect.

One possibility is that,given the correct expression is '' A very merry Christmas '',that Zodiac considered a play on a Paul Avery reference [?].

That,perhaps,Zodiac was going to wish Melvin Belli ,an '' Avery merry Christmas ''.

Another,with the ''WXYZ'' and ''LMNO'' tools,is that Zodiac was going to reproduce ''CAIDOZ''....which is ''Zodiac'' backwards.

Now,''Caid'' means chief or captain,in the muslim religion.

Hence : '' Captain Oz ''.

Given that the land of Oz,was little different to Alice's looking glass,in that all was not what it necessarily appeared to be,then...'' Captain Oz '' may well have appealed to Zodiac,as a ''sign off'' name,on Belli's envelope.

If we were to believe in any of this,it does,at least hint at Zodiac's very active mind,and fertile imagination.

Ultimately,Zodiac couldn't bring himself to start showing off,with Belli,since was actually looking for some sympathy,and hopefully,some respect.

But,with Paul Avery,the sky was the limit.

Rubislaw 32 link

6/6/2018 06:00:13 am

Interesting that you should mention Zodiac's wavering writing,Richard,as at the end of the Melvin Belli letter.

Zodiac was obviously up for writing that letter.....and,on his best behaviour.The wavering or ''slacking off'' seems to come about,when he is mentally in sight of the ''finish line''.

David Van Nuys refers to this behaviour,in ''Into the mind of a serial killer''.

I have made mention before,about the capital ''I's'' as if lighted candles,on the back of the Halloween card.Well,I see that a ''presumed'' Zodiac has employed the same depiction of capital ''I's'',on the Bates Confession Letter envelope,dated November 29th 1966.

As presented :

DAILY ENTERPRISE
RIVERSIDE
CALIF

ATTN:CRIME

Also,I see that with the ''Bates had to die'' letters,there were four,in total.One to Joseph Bates,one to the Riverside Police,and two to the Daily Enterprise newspaper [?].

All April 30th 1967.

One of the envelopes,used for the Daily Enterprise newspaper,was laid out,thus :

Press Enter [..this bit deleted...]
3512 14th
Riverside

ATTN : Editor

With that envelope,in particular,do you think that there is a ''touch'' of a presumed Zodiac,trying to exercise a bit of ''flamboyance'' to his handwriting [?].

Possibly even a portent to further attempts of contrived writing,like the ''Count Marco'' letter.

Or even,dare I say,some similarities to correspondences sent to Mary Piker and Kimberly Lawrence [?].

Drew

6/7/2018 07:09:01 pm

Hey Rubislaw, where did you read about a Bates letter being sent to the Press Enterprise? Is there an image link you could post?

Rubislaw 32 link

6/7/2018 07:36:55 pm

Tom Voigt's site shows all the envelopes,Drew.

Of course,the Press Enterprise was just the evening version of the Daily Enterprise....except on Sundays,when they came together as one newspaper.

Hope that answers your question [?].

Drew

6/7/2018 08:02:05 pm

Thanks man. I have seen the envelope for the Confession letter but I have never heard of a fourth Bates letter. I wonder if it had a symbol on it. At any rate I'll have a look over on Tom's. Cheers

Drew

6/7/2018 08:20:17 pm

Found it Rubi, thanks. If it was from the Riverside killer his handwriting certainly improved greatly over the course of that day! Suddenly he's using cursive and only one stamp. Weird. Too bad there's no letter to look at.
http://www.zodiackiller.com/BatesLetter4.html

On Morf's site they believe it is the Patricia Hautz envelope. I know Butterfield interviewed her and though she couldn't recall writing the letter with her name on it, it did match her handwriting and she said she wrote a lot of letters at that time.
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?t=73&p=11457

Here's what Butterfield wrote about it if you're interested.
http://zodiackillerfacts.com/main/riverside-and-the-murder-of-cheri-jo-bates/

Judith

6/6/2018 09:27:41 am

Peter would have never admitted he needed any help. IMO He was screwing with and terrorizing Belli. He referenced Belli with seething hatred whenever he came on TV.

Rubislaw 32 link

6/7/2018 08:18:11 pm

Yes Drew,there seems to be contention over whether the Hautz typed letter matches up with the Press Enterprise envelope.

The possibility,perhaps that Zodiac sent ''there will be more'' scrawls,to both Daily Enterprise and Press Enterprise [?].

Rubislaw 32 link

6/7/2018 08:39:17 pm

Thanks Drew,I have ''been round the houses'' with these opinions,and,although well meaning....doesn't quite come to a definitively agreed upon solution.

The ''handwriting match'',for instance,is only based on viewing Patricia Hautz's signature.

She was only willing to go so far,in co-operating with ''sleuths'' [?].

It could be that,either she doesn't want to bring too much attention to herself....or,that I might venture,that she had already fully co-operated with investigating police,in the past,and does not feel it in the best interests of the case,to make public that which she has submitted.

Rubislaw 32 link

6/8/2018 03:37:44 am

With the noble efforts of Mr.Morford and Mr.Butterfield,to get to the bottom of the Hautz letter,something further has come under consideration.

That being of the possibility that the perpetrator of Cheri Jo,was actually taking out his frustrations,at receiving the ''brush off'',from Patricia Hautz.

A sobering thought [?].

Rubislaw 32 link

6/7/2018 06:56:44 pm

Are you sure that you are not talking yourself out of Peter,being Zodiac,Judith ?

You could always latch on to my theory about Zodiac persecuting Grant.

''Axes to grind'',and all that [?].It's pretty much a slam dunk that Grant was ''entertaining'' young men,in motel rooms.

That could be an ''in'',for Peter [?].Even though I believe that Zodiac's primary motive was different to the ''disgruntled boyfriend'' scenario.

Just going back to ''that'' fourth envelope in the Bates case.It's actually a big enigma,with the Hautz letter....and whether her letter wasn't mixed up with a [suspected] Zodiac envelope.

The Riverside Police,in their ''presumed'' wisdom,elected to,initially,hand over all the Bates correspondences,to the Post Office fraud department.

So,we can wave goodbye to the possibility of any fingerprints having materialised,as a result of the Riverside Police's decision.

All these regional police forces must have hated the FBI,in those days [?].

Judith

6/8/2018 06:59:23 am

Well I guess you would have had to have lived with him for 20 years
No I've never talked myself out of Peter being the Zodiac. No one that personally knew him has ever indicated to me that he might not be the Zodiac either, by the way. As I used to say, " You wouldn't be able to make it through a weekend with Peter". Having said that, I see that Tom Voigt has posted that his law enforcement source as informed him that they can obtain a complete DNA sample now from hair, referencing the stamp from 2002 with the reddish brown hair. Which Peter had reddish brown hair. So let's see now because we're moving quickly towards a DNA profile. Let us hope they also are testing the Riverside hair. We're going to need more than one hair under a stamp to prove that that hair came from a murderer...

Karen C

6/8/2018 04:14:40 pm

Well you could be right Judith, and hopefully DNA will prove you right in future. For now, you will have to take a ticket and stand in a very long line, because there have been a lot of people making the same claims about fathers, work colleagues, relatives, complete strangers etc. The list of Zodiac suspects is huge, and those who push any one of them are all absolutely convinced beyond any doubt that their suspect was the Zodiac. The problem is not all of them can be right, and maybe, just maybe, all of them are wrong. I wonder how many people were convinced that the GSK was a particular suspect? I am sure there will still be people out there who are convinced that the authorities got the wrong man.

Rubislaw 32 link

6/8/2018 09:30:19 am

Yes,I was only kidding,really.

It's just that you had previously mentioned that Peter ''only told the truth''....which does seem alien to most people's perception of Zodiac.

And now this hatred for Melvin Belli [?].I think that Zodiac saw through Belli's pompousness,but understood that he could be valuable to Zodiac,and respected Belli,for his capacity to mount a successful legal defence.

Unless,of course,Belli happened to find himself in Texas,defending Jack Ruby [!].

One has to wonder,why the authorities haven't attempted a full DNA profile of Zodiac,before [?].I just don't buy into the idea that previous technology wasn't advanced enough.

And,if they haven't already obtained a full profile,if they have enough material sources left,after 50 years,from the ''high profile'' material sources,that have been available,in the past [?].

My inclinations are,that the CADOJ,are waiting for assistance,from ''further afield'',and are playing a ''procrastination and prevarication'' game,with the public,for now.

Karen C

6/8/2018 04:07:13 pm

The whole 340 cipher was just a bunch of thrown together crap. It would have been the epitome of Batman's "Alphabet Soup" in fact, if not for an obvious "slight of hand". The Zodiac added symmetry. This was probably the Zodiac's "in your face" way of telling us that this is not a legitimate homophonic cipher. He was of course reproducing and re-iterating aspects of the Paradise/Slaves motif, and the "by guns, by knife, by rope" theme. The symmetry and letters that Richard points out does reinforce this perfectly. So perhaps the only thing the Zodiac wanted to achieve by this cipher was proof that he was the author of the Halloween card sent to Paul Avery. There could be no doubt that the cipher and the card both came from the same person. They are inextricably linked so there can be no doubt. Perhaps even at this early time the Zodiac was beginning to fear the possibility of copycats or fraudsters hitching a ride on his notoriety. This in itself speaks volumes about his egotism.

Read more into this cipher at your peril !!! Nothing else will stand up to scrutiny.

Drew

6/10/2018 09:28:44 am

These are good thoughts Karen except you may be forgetting that the 340 was sent long before the Halloween card, so the hypothesis would have to be that the Halloween Card was legitimizing the cipher. I babbled on more about this above.

Karen C

6/10/2018 04:43:56 pm

Ummm, "sending" is not the same as "writing"? I've heard this argument used many many times before. Thisis not related to that because it came first, etc. etc. etc.

Well, how do we know in which order he wrote things?

Also ideas tend to stick in the mind, perhaps moreso in the mind of someone obsessed about killing people. Maybe he wrote that Halloween card around the same time as the 340, but sent them at different times?

My feeling is the Zodiac kept a stock of written material all based around similar themes, and he selected from these to suit different circumstances, perhaps adding or editing prior to posting. At least this has always been the feeling I get.

I think he was aiming for some kind of continuity of thoughts and ideas. That is why all of his correspondence ties together so well.

Richard

6/9/2018 03:28:35 am

I don't know if this is significant or just another coincidence- probably the latter. The overriding emphasis of the card appears the number 14.
The 14th line of the 340 contains what looks like BOO in reverse on this line. The Zodiac gave a running total on many of his cards and letters, usually in accompaniment with crosshairs. So, did the symbol represent Z V F joined together, indicating Zodiac Victims Fourteen, with the four dots used to point us in that direction, in similar fashion to using the 4-TEEN. After all, TEEN on its own wouldn't have meant much. Thereby the four dots simply converted F into fourteen.
We have a black circle to the left of BOO. Above that is an I +.
I + (black circle) gives us the exclamation point. Then the next three characters to the left of the black circle in order (although needing rotating or reversing) are Z V and F. Just a coincidence or possibly a little more chicanery. Likely just coincidence, but worth a gander.

Shawn

6/11/2018 08:48:37 am

There is a new suspect that Vallejo police are actively investigating. Vallejo is requesting Idaho police to collect bullets from guns the suspect fired while living in Idaho.

Maybe keep the suspect name "Kenneth Lester German" on your mind while you research.

“We were contacted by Solano County and (investigators) asked us to get some information about Mr. Powers,” Bonner sheriff’s Detective Matt Wallace said. He referred all specific questions back to the Solano department.

https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/solano-county/idaho-sheriffs-office-asked-to-help-in-zodiac-case/

https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/fairfield/solano-man-says-grandfather-was-zodiac-killer/

Rubislaw 32 link

6/10/2018 05:44:04 am

Regardless of disputed claims on handwriting,Richard,it does appear as if the Patricia Hautz typed letter c/w ''fancy writing'' envelope,was concocted,and mailed in November 1967.

And,is the work of the man,who later became the Zodiac [?].

I am,personally,stunned by the thought that it could have been an ,in effect, confession of the murder of Cheri Jo,by ''virtue'' of Ms.Hautz being the real person that gave him the ''brush off''.

I am 100% on the Bates correspondences being ''Zodiac''.....but only 50:50 on him being the perpetrator.

But,poor Ms.Hautz....if she realises that she may have been related to this ''cause of events'' [?].

And,for all these years.

Rubislaw 32 link

6/10/2018 08:11:02 am

Reference : zodiackillermystery.freeforums.net

Thread : '' The Zodiac Killer in other countries ''

The beginning of the end ?

It's always possible.

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