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XENOPHON ANTHONY-2ND REDACTED FBI FILE

9/7/2016

 
Back in June of this year, Zodiac researcher Alex Lewis managed to acquire an unredacted FBI document releasing the following information: Xenophon Lusby Anthony, WMA, DOB 28th February 1931. Resides at 3218 Jackson Street, San Francisco. For Info Ident Division, San Francisco Police Department advised; 8 year old witness in murder of cab driver identified Anthony as possible subject in this matter.

This was on page 15 of 41 on Zodiac 2 PDF and dated November 6th 1969. The follow up, on page 16 of 41 was regarding the testing of latent fingerprints for comparison to known fingerprints held on file, dated November 7th 1969, in regard to the 11/6/69 teletype. It was important to see what follow up was conducted regarding this sighting. The FBI file below, indicates that the presumed sighting of Xenophon Anthony by the 8-year-old witness was followed up immediately and found that Xenophon L Anthony's fingerprints bore no correlation to the fingerprints on file. Here are the files I managed to acquire from an FOIA request to the FBI.

http://www.zodiacciphers.com/uploads/4/9/7/1/4971630/zodiac2.pdf
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Alex Lewis
9/8/2016 08:43:45 am

"The FBI file below indicates that the sighting of the 8 year old was followed up immediately and Xenophon L Anthony's fingerprints bore no correlation to the fingerprints on file."

Well I knew they wouldn't Rich and said as such when You told Me you filed for the follow up.

Rich you've edited in the names in the version above, can you email me a copy of the one you received? I won't publicly use it.

Also, you say the FBI File 'Indicates' that the 8 year old sighting was 'immediately' followed up on. That's a vague statement and I am wondering exactly what they did to follow up. I assume that Xen's prints wouldn't have been on file so they likely went to Him to get them. Can you be more specific or email the file itself?

Richard
9/8/2016 10:53:25 am

I have no camera phone, so I will have to record it on webcam.

Richard
9/8/2016 10:56:31 am

You can email me your address and I will send you the document if you like.

Richard
9/8/2016 11:42:04 am

I'll try to capture better quality. I'm using webcam.

Richard
9/8/2016 12:38:39 pm

Help yourself to anything Alex, or I can send you them.

Alex Lewis
9/8/2016 07:35:14 pm

The upload quality is fine as a readable document, but the Handwriting of the examiner isn't. The second upload Rich, what's the handwriting say from start to end? Obviously it starts with Robert Hale Wests results before Anthony's. If you can read it more easily in A4 Size document print and you can paste the entire paragraph written in examines hand, do paste for me Please.

Richard
9/9/2016 01:02:49 am

The only added text in the second handwritten document is West and Anthony, the rest is the same as the PDF.

Richard
9/8/2016 01:01:12 pm

The fingerprints were compared to ones held on file the day after receipt of the fingerprints. If the 8 year old viewed the subject on the 11th October 1969, then why is the testing occurring 26/27 days later.
When did the young lad or his parents submit the information and how was it handled.

Alex Lewis
9/8/2016 03:01:40 pm

It's fine Rich, they are readable.

But yes, the "Witness in murder of cab driver" can only, quite obviously, witness the incident on the date of incident, ie Oct 11. I think it's a safe assumption to make that the 8 year old didn't wait to tell what they saw and authorities knew of this witness on the night itself. Why would SFPD wait a Month to petition the FBI for a comparison to be done on a suspect that's named by a witness.

I said to you Rich before that the way the statement is worded, that of: "For info ident. division: San Francisco PD Advised eight year old witness in murder of cab driver identified Xenophon L. Anthony as possible subject in this matter" suggests to Me that the writer is writing this statement assuming that the recipient of it will know of this witness.

It's written as though the writer is aware that the FBI has been told or given notification of a witness aged eight prior to this latent prints request. To refer to the witness by their age only is suggestive of writer being aware that to state "Eight year old witness in murder of cab driver" will be enough info for the FBI recipient to know who and what this is referring to.

If the FBI had not been given previous knowledge of the witness, then I would expect the reference to be much more detailed such as:

"FOR INFO OF IDENT. DIVISION. SAN FRANCISCO PD ADVISED THE WRITER OF THIS REQUEST THAT THE FINAL SUSPECT LISTED ABOVE, XENOPHON L ANTHONY, WAS IDENTIFIED BY A WITNESS, AGED ONLY EIGHT, AS POSSIBLY BEING THE INDIVIDUAL THEY OBSERVED LEAVE THE TAXI."

To simply state "EIGHT YEAR OLD WITNESS IN MURDER OF CAB DRIVER IDENTIFIED XENOPHON" is highly suggestive of the author of this comment expects the FBI recipient to know who and what this is referring to if and when they refer to the witness simply as 'Eight year old Witness.' Otherwise, if the receiver has no knowledge of such a witness and/or identification they made then as the writer of the statement would surely know that when the FBI receive it, they'll do so asking hypothetically: "Witness? Eight years of age? Identifies suspect as possibly being Mr Anthony?"

Alex Lewis
9/8/2016 03:22:37 pm

Rich I would be more than interested to know who carried out this latent exam. The document above does give the examiners name but it's redacted: "EXAMINATION BY: REDACTED NAME" then under that states: "EVIDENCE TESTED BY: REDACTED NAME."

Tell you why I want to know....

This test was carried out on 11/6. (Attn. Brits! If, like Me, your easily confused, then date is given in US format of Month/Day/Year rather than Day/Month/Year. How I never submitted a FOIA asking why a request for prints comparison wasn't sent until June 11, I'll never know Hehe).
It's interesting to note that Zodiac's 'Sorry I haven't written, but I just washed My Pen' card lands on the Chronicles Editors desk on November 8, Two days after the latent examination. Give a day for posting and delivery, the card would have been sent on 6 or 7th November, same day as FBI Latent exam. What is relevant about this clear coincidence? The Zodiac wrote in His accompanying letter on Nov 8: "I thought you would need a good laugh before you hear the bad news. You won't get the news for a while yet though." What bad news does Z know of and is referencing here? The 'Negative' results of a suspect ID'd by a witness maybe?

Richard
9/8/2016 03:23:45 pm

That is very likely Alex, have you scoured all the FBI files to see if any other documents show any promise. My guess is some background work was done behind the scenes. In other words they didn't just simply rely on fingerprints, as there is no guarantee the fingerprints on file they are comparing fresh suspects to, are actually Zodiac's. Otherwise Arthur Leigh Allen would have been ruled out years before, which he wasn't, suggesting the detectives weren't ruling anybody out on fingerprints alone. It took his death and DNA comparison to effectively eliminate him. I mean, why would Zodiac deposit his fingerprints on any communication subsequent to November 9th 1969 after vehemently denying he would ever leave fingerprints. Zodiac was a lot of things, but he certainly was savvy enough not to be that lax. The blooded fingerprints on the driver side panel can only be truly explained if [1] Zodiac entered the driver side door to gain control of the vehicle or [2] The three teenagers were correct when they said in that later interview that Zodiac was attempting to prop Stine up behind the wheel. Why we can only speculate.

Richard
9/8/2016 03:31:50 pm

Its funny you should mention the "I thought you would need a good laugh before you hear the bad news. You won't get the news for a while yet though." That is an interesting observation and something I considered in another way. Most suspects were never usually made public, they were even redacted in the file. Consider the Zodiac in the know, somehow connected to the police. Then read this in regards to Riverside....
http://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/the-340-cipher-riverside-connection

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 02:10:18 pm

"That is very likely Alex, have you scoured all the FBI files to see if any other documents show any promise."

No is the short answer Rich, I haven't.

In that letter we see the expected and usual printed writing style in the now familiar Blue Felt Pen and, it's Zodiac, what else would He write like or with. Well, joined writing style written in a distinct black tip pen maybe? Like the phrase that appears descending down the right side of the letters page: "and i can't do a thing with it."

That is nothing whatsoever like Z's distinctive recognizable printing. If He's dropping a hint here that this printed writing may appear natural and freeflowing, and even if it is, is of no use looking for comparison base line samples out there because, well because, He just like His declaration of "I only look like the description passed out when I do my thing, the rest of the time I look entirely different' He also has the same rule that applies to His writing style?

Richard
9/9/2016 03:20:33 pm

The phrase "And I can't do a thing with it" wasn't written by Zodiac, it was part of the original card.

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 07:19:37 pm

"he phrase "And I can't do a thing with it" wasn't written by Zodiac, it was part of the original card."

OVERRULED!

- *Contract issued. Publicly questioned Alex, a future MBE recipient. Made Welsh Future MBE grow rather angry. Ranting "Deplorable! Deplorable at best!"


It's not relevant Richard as to what truth and/or reality is regarding the writing and who wrote it, why it's there blah blah blah. See it just gets boring the factual truth so let us, without delay, concentrate upon what I said and what I wish the facts to be, rather than what they are. Now then, Zodiac wrote it Richard because, A: I said so and everything I say is Approved and confirmed by the Divine and B: Well I don't think one needs a B considering the brilliance of A!

The above is how one investigates these things you see to ensure One has absolutely no chance of ever getting anywhere and that is fine so long as you enjoy going around in circles forever.

Go ahead. . . Permission to reply granted! What What What?

Richard
9/8/2016 04:03:10 pm

"The earliest documented connection was made a year earlier in a memorandum mailed from Riverside to Napa County on October 20th 1969, after a phone call days earlier between Chief of Police Thomas Kinkead and Sheriff of Napa County Earl Randol. The letter from Kinkead detailed the similarities between the cases and intimated that the information may assist investigators in the Bay Area."
If you look at the FBI Zodiac 2 file page 26/41 and 27/41 it mentions Berryessa and Earl Randol. This communication is only 10 days after the memorandum. Eight days later was the Dripping Pen card and the 'news you won't get for a while'. The next FBI file 29/41 describes the two communications from Zodiac, reportedly received by the San Francisco Chronicle on the 10th November 1969. Earl Randol of Napa received the Riverside connection and here he is in the FBI files at virtually the same time, followed by Zodiac and his claim 'you won't get the news for a while.'

Richard
9/8/2016 04:12:18 pm

Have you considered file 9/41 to contain Xen's details.

Alex Lewis
9/8/2016 09:02:04 pm

"The earliest documented connection was made a year earlier in a memorandum mailed from Riverside to Napa County on October 20th 1969, after a phone call days earlier between Chief of Police Thomas Kinkead and Sheriff of Napa County Earl Randol. The letter from Kinkead detailed the similarities between the cases and intimated that the information may assist investigators in the Bay Area."

So if Randol and The Chronicle were made aware of a possible R'side connection in Oct of 69, how is it that Avery claims that He comes across this potential lead/connection via an alleged anonymous phone call to Him? Anyway, have been doing a bit of digging and have found something rather interesting. Coming next. . .

Alex Lewis
9/8/2016 09:51:51 pm

Paul's autopsy shows His lungs were heavier due to blood present. However, the coroner noted that the blood was not there in the lungs open air breathe space as you'd find if Paul had choked to death on His own Blood, but rather, in the lungs tissue itself. The lungs had began to bleed due to Hemorrhaging. There are three potential causes for this. 1, Chronic Lung Disease. Paul would have to have been unaware He had this illness and given the symptoms associated with it for the living, that's not likely at all. 2: Strangulation. As with Red Spots clearly visible in the retina of strangled victims eyes due to hemorrhaging, this also occurs in strangulation victims lungs due to the same cause of Lack of Oxygen brought on by having a compressed airway. 3. Blunt Force Trauma or Forceful Impacting of Chest Cavity. The coroner notes that both lungs were found hemorrhaging and so impact would have to have been against a solid sizable surface rather than an directed Punch for example.

Also noted 'Dark marks present on back of Victims hand.'

Bruises? Na, Coroner would have just said that's what they were.

Gunpowder burn? This is dismissed by most because the coroner would have again said as such. However, does a coroner have ballistic capabilities to test for Gun shot residue? Not that I have ever heard of. That's Law Enforcement and the Crime Lab. It's CSI's Job to take a sample of unknown substance found on a victim to determine what it is, not the Coroner. The Coroner would likely assume that LE had taken samples of this staining mark.

So, given the possibility of this being Gun Shot Residue and Paul's Chest Hemorrhaging consistent with high speed impact to His chest, could Paul's Passenger, somewhere along route, have pulled His weapon and had Paul at Gunpoint sat behind Him and Paul did what I know many kidnap victims do when they are ordered at gunpoint by an assailant to drive to a specific location, they deliberately crash their vehicles, preferably in a populated and busy area.

If Paul did deliberately do this, thus causing the damage to His cabs doors and front side of the hood, then it makes sense once Impact happens, He'd instantly make a grab for Zodiac's Gun. This may also explain Fouke's observing the Suspect walking down Jackson Street with a "Lumbering Gait. . . Stumbling along with a semi-limp" if The assailant Himself were injured in a Collision?

Alex Lewis
9/8/2016 10:53:34 pm

This Collision scenario is the only way other possibility I can think of that would allow 'Eight year old witness' to be located somewhere other than the immediate area of the final location of the cab.

Let's say Z shoots Paul several streets prior to Cherry due to Paul Himself veering into a tree, or veers into it after trying to grab Z's gun causing a crash. This collision and the shot would likely make any resident who's home it takes place outside of to look outside. He could possibly then see who He believes to be Xenophon exiting the rear seating area, opening Paul's door and pushing Him aside to passenger seat, getting in and driving away uphill. He literally would then have been 'Witness in murder of cab driver' and could also explain why Z wiped Paul's drivers side door exterior.
The Oct. 12 Chronicle report gets much wrong, is it just another reporting error when it suggests witnesses observed what appeared to be a scuffle?

I mean who's to say this murder really wasn't planned? We've said that Z having a getaway car there makes no sense because He'd have to drive it there, take a cab back downtown, get out, then get another cab back to where He just came from then shoot the driver. Maybe Z was genuinely on His way home and, all Cabbies do, Paul engaged Him on conversation. Maybe it went:
Stine: I am heading this way anyway to another pick up.
Zodiac: Busy this evening then?
PS: So-so. I am only doing this job until I get My Media Studies Degree. I have a job waiting at the Chronicle when I get it.
Z: The Chronicle? Isn't that the paper that that Killer like to write? You know, Oh what does He call Himself now. . .
PS: You mean Zodiac?
Z: Yes, that's Him.
PS: Well Yes but see their mistake is printing His letters. A lunatic attention seeker like Him they should just ignore. His Mother probably didn't give Him any attention as a child and abandoned Him and that's why He does these things. The woman obviously had sense.
Z: You don't say? You'd be unlikely to tell Him that though given what He's been out there doing?
PS: I'd tell Him exactly what I thought of Him if I get to write about Him one day for the Chronicle. I'd let Him know He's a sick, twisted Man who needs to be put in the States Gas Chamber and executed. Coward that He is!
Z: Your a brave man. How can you be sure your not saying this to the Me and that I am not the actual Killer?
PS: (Humorous response by Paul) Well I don't think you can be cause if you were Him, You'd probably react to such insults and be looking to make Me the next victim?"
Z: Your right,(Pulls Gun), "Boo!"

Richard
9/9/2016 02:11:50 am

The only problem with the crash scenario is the noticeable absence of damage to the front end of the taxicab. There is an alternative if Paul Stine was being held under gunpoint. He is driving along and believes the way to disarm the suspect may be to slam his brakes on full, the suspect lurching forward, so he can grab the gun. This however may explain bruising to Paul Stine's chest and possibly hand as he strikes the steering wheel with his chest and dashboard with his hand. But unless significant force is created and trauma to his chest region, this is unlikely to cause severe haemorrhage to the lungs. I will take a further look.

Richard
9/9/2016 03:53:29 am

A pulmonary contusion (or lung contusion) is a contusion (bruise) of the lung, caused by chest trauma. As a result of damage to capillaries, blood and other fluids accumulate in the lung tissue. The excess fluid interferes with gas exchange, potentially leading to inadequate oxygen levels (hypoxia). Unlike pulmonary laceration, another type of lung injury, pulmonary contusion does not involve a cut or tear of the lung tissue.

A pulmonary contusion is usually caused directly by blunt trauma but can also result from explosion injuries or a shock wave associated with penetrating trauma. With the use of explosives during World Wars I and II, pulmonary contusion resulting from blasts gained recognition. In the 1960s its occurrence in civilians began to receive wider recognition, in which cases it is usually caused by traffic accidents. The use of seat belts and airbags reduces the risk to vehicle occupants.

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 04:00:37 am

"The only problem with the crash scenario is the noticeable absence of damage to the front end of the taxicab."

I don't necessarily subscribe to the Collision idea Rich, I was just throwing it out there as a scenario that could account for the coroner's findings.

Paul's trip sheet, as far as I am aware, still hasn't turned up and that again is convenient because that's where authorities claim they discovered the given destination of Washington and Maple Streets. Bit like the dispatcher who gave information that nobody can clarify by going to the source.

I think, since Harvey Hines Brother sent Me Harvey's full report, that what He states Toschi had told Him is absolutely accurate in that Zodiac had called for a cab using the payphone in Downtown Union Square and when doing so, Gave the Yellow Cab Dispatcher a pick up point and also, the destination of W & M streets. They also claim to know a rather specific pick up location point, a specific Intersection of Mason and Geary, just from the price the cabs meter had stopped at when it was found. They claim they backtracked the trip and worked out from the price where the Cab's journey began with the new fare. BS. They know this not by 'educated guessing but because Zodiac called and gave them a His pick up location.

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 04:08:30 am

The coroner's actual recorded findings was:

"Both lungs found to be moderately increased in Weight. Congestion noted at base & dependent portions. Multiple Intraparenchymal Hemorrhages are noted."

Richard
9/9/2016 04:22:15 am

A violent braking manoeuvre could have impacted Paul Stine's chest on the steering wheel, the Zodiac Killer's leg impacting the rear of the seat, causing a dead leg syndrome and explaining why Zodiac was seen and described by Donald Fouke as a semi-limp, shuffling lope. I also covered this in an earlier article, that if Zodiac had exited the taxicab at any point while it was still in motion, he could easily have jarred his ankle, resulting in discomfort.
The idea Zodiac held Paul Stine under gunpoint, as detailed in the first wanted poster, is not without merit. Had this occurred and Paul Stine was thinking of an escape strategy, then ramming on your brakes heavily would send your passenger careering into the front seat, at which point you can attempt to wrestle the gun from the assailant. If Zodiac, being the braggart he was, had identified himself to Stine, the taxicab driver ultimately knows that unless he does something he is a dead man, hence slamming on the brakes. I don't believe there were any skid marks at the scene, but considering no gunshot was heard at Washington and Cherry, these fresh skid marks may have been present anywhere before this point. The damage to Paul Stine's left door is from 2 weeks prior to the shooting and has no bearing on the actual crime and this damage would obviously has been checked out. Any side impact upon the vehicle is not going to cause bleeding to both lungs, however a heavy impact to the front of the vehicle would. There is mind no damage whatsoever to the front of Stine's taxicab, not even a broken headlight, but an impact of Stine's chest striking the hard steering wheel is a distinct possibility. This would account for bleeding to both lungs. Delicate capillaries are easily damaged, even without overlaying signs such as broken or fractured ribs, the compression of the chest is what causes the damage. My guess is if this is what happened, then any telltale skid marks of fresh rubber in the preceding intersections would have told the story. Unfortunately it is too late for that now. Nevertheless the haemorrhaged lungs and the emergency stop, by a man being held under gunpoint is a credible scenario.

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 05:32:56 am

" Paul Stine was thinking of an escape strategy, then ramming on your brakes heavily would send your passenger careering into the front seat, at which point you can attempt to wrestle the gun from the assailant."

Or if your really lucky, the sudden jolt and G-Forced acting in a 30-35 MPH to slam down as hard as possible on the brake coming to a stop almost instantly could, if the assailants palms were sweaty or His general grip is not tight enough, throw the gunman forward, His arm too and He loses grip and the gun could tumble into Paul's Lap. If the passenger, who is fully planning on refusing to pay for services rendered, does not have a second back up concealed pistol.....Up creek, No Paddle observed!

Maybe it was the cost that Z took issue with. Maybe that's why The FBI keep referring to Zodiac and the Extortion Statute. "How Much?? I am not paying that! I've only been in the cab 9 minutes and your trying to charge me that much. . . Extortion is what your attempting, and as such, I shall act in self defense - *Bang!!*

Alex Lewis
9/8/2016 11:40:22 pm

If He lives in P. Heights, or even has associates/friends who do, then He's likely a person of means, wealth and/or status Himself. As such, Maybe He really was trying to let us know something by stating as A Literal Truth: "Like I have always said, I am Crackproof."

That word choice has always been suggestive of something more than most see it as. It's never been 'Just another boastful brag' to Me. The analogy I use for how I see Crack Proof is the similarly Named 'Bullet Proof.' If an offender want's to go out in a blaze of gunfire with a cop who's wearing body armor, AKA bullet proof vest, then that offender can empty His 6 shot revolver directly into the cops chest and the bullets won't get to the target and have the effect that the assailant want's them to because unbeknownst to the shooter, the cop has taken steps and measures to ensure that any one looking to shoot at and Kill Him by firing shots into His chest cavity and general torso area will fail because He's got something in place that stands in the way of that ever happening. He's put in place a shield between Them that may seek to harm and kill Him and Himself and in doing so, assailants can try and try but will fail. He has the upper hand and added advantage of knowing He can't be Fatally hit in the chest by bullets, and can and will take 6 shots from someone before drawing His own gun to take out the threat.

Maybe Z is literal in there being something put in place between Him and Law Enforcement that will ensure not only that He won't be caught, but that He can't be.

Sound far fetched? Well, I've never seen another example of a cop car rolling up on an individual not one blocks distance from a homicide that's literally just happened and not only do the cops not detain Him (whether you believe the BMA bull shit or not is not really relevant), but they fail to do the one thing every cop in that situation will do without exception and that's simply: Get the persons details.
Even if for purposes or reasons that the WMA may be a possible future witness to go back to speak with.

I am as confident as I can be in My own mind that Eric and Don stopped and spoke to Him and I simply cannot believe that in doing so they did not either ask the Man directly for His Name, or possibly recognize Him and didn't need to ask but either way, they simply must know.

I believe this is the main basis and No.1 reason that despite Pelissetti stating to the contrary aswel as Eric's widow allegedly making a statement that Eric had told Her they had stopped and spoke to the individual that night, Don simply denies it adamantly. He knows all to well that the moment He admit's to speaking to a suspect that night, the first question everyone will ask in reply is "Who was He?"

Don knows that this will be the first question everyone will want an answer to because He knows that's what any cop would do when observing an individual so close to a homicide scene heading away from it, they'd stop and ask for the persons ID and make a note of His Name & Address and Don knows to admit Speaking to A Man that night, but then claim not to have asked Him for His ID or Name and Address and why He's here in this area is just ludicrous and nobody will believe such crap. So, He has to in one sense, deny speaking to the suspect at any costs even when in direct conflict with a fellow cops statement or claims.

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 12:02:09 am

The overall point and question is: Why did a Police Officer have Him right in His patrol car's headlights and stopped to speak to Him only to let Him go allowing Him to walk away and do so while claiming not to have a clue who He was because 'Opps, I forgot to ask Him for His Name/ID'?

What does Don know that He isn't saying? Who did He stop that night that would warrant being allowed by cops to go on His way and who then claim not to know who it was they allowed to walk off from within yards of a Homicide scene? Did they let Him go because of who He is, a man who cops felt obliged to let on His way and once it becomes a possible reality that Who they saw really is the Zodiac, felt they couldn't say anything and Name Him?

Conspiracy Theory? Maybe. But not by Me. Theory yes, Conspiracy No. The Conspiring isn't done by Me to change the facts, version and truth of what Happened that Night, that's the official version givers who's own amendments they make while acknowledging they know they never told anyone nor put it in their report what the actual truth was as to where the suspect was last observed heading, then these are the people conspiring to bring forth deliberate lies to mislead and thwart others attempts to get to the truth.

Richard
9/9/2016 05:40:06 am

I need a fresh set of eyes on this Alex regarding whether Zodiac did send correspondence on or after the Berryessa attack. I have posted this before on the forum and people thought it possibly meant something else.
FBI files (No1 page 53):
"Inspector Toschi advised that investigation is currently being conducted by Napa, Vallejo and San Francisco Police Departments concerning captioned matter and that he believes UNSUB may have military background in as much UNSUB used bayonet and two separate 9mm weapons and one of surviving victims observed UNSUB to be wearing military type boots. Further Inspector Toschi related that the enclosed letter from UNSUB (Oct 13th letter), identifying himself as Zodiac and stating he was responsible for the killing of cab driver, enclosed a blood stained piece of material alleged to have been taken from victim's shirt. Toschi stated he had definitely established that material did in fact come from victim's shirt and laboratory examination indicated handwriting IS SAME AS THAT IN PRIOR LETTERS WRITTEN IN NAPA COUNTY ON 9/27/69."
"The enclosed letter (Oct 13th letter) and envelope are being furnished to the laboratory for examination and comparison with material previously submitted by Sacramento division in this matter.
Copies of the letter and envelope and wanted flyers are being furnished to Sacramento Division for information and any action deemed advisable."

Either this is correct or two mistakes are present; ie they never meant Napa County and they never meant 9/27/69, which seems highly unlikely. But my translation of this report is "and laboratory examination of the handwriting of the October 13th Stine letter, is that it matches handwriting from the Napa County letters of September 27th 1969." If they withheld "by knife", it is equally believable they withheld letters sent by Zodiac to validate this crime. They even withheld the Little List letter for over 2 months. Maybe after Zodiac committed the taxicab murder on October 11th 1969, the will or need to release these letters diminished.
These are the replies I got.
"They may have inadvertently wrote letters instead of car door,where they could have simply stated the writing is the same in both cases."
"Yah, maybe like "letters" on the car door...like, alphabetical letters."
Am I reading too much into this and the FBI file is just not well written. I think I'm wrong, but just wanted your bottomless font of knowledge on this typo or otherwise. Your swift response will be gladly appreciated your gracious one.

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 09:51:06 am

The only advice I would offer is, don't go asking The San Francisco PD. You can obviously, but given the amount of misinformation they have been caught using, amending 'North on Maple' to 'Steps leading to residential Courtyard' and it only took decades to come out of the closet on the issue. How many other little facts have they stored away in their evidence room at SFPD HQ? The room should have a sign on the door: 'EVIDENCE (CONCEALMENT) ROOM.'

Rich it is a Maxim of The Law mate that says If witness giving evidence is found to have told one lie, everything that person testifies to, even if it all be truth, is not to be listened to.' A second Maxim states: 'A lying witness witness ought not be listened to.'

And One the SFPD should have in gold on their office walls just to remind them daily: "It is an offence to withhold facts and information from the public when the facts and Information is in the public's interest to have them made known."

I don't think Don's a willing participant in these lies and withholding of things, to see Him on 2007's TITZS Documentary He looks like a man who is carrying a burden He finds excessively heavy. Run down, exhausted and sighing and looking at the floor etc.

Fouke never had issued with disciplinary actions on His Police Record prior to Zodiac turning up within a few blocks of His 'routine patrol.' After 1969, Arrested for D.U.I, Or Driving Under the Influence. Suspended after police called to report of a Male, shouting, swearing and acting aggressive. Officers observed Fouke stumbling drunk shouting and attempted to put Him in their patrol car to take Him Home. Fouke resisted them aggressively and they ended up arresting Him.

Don't tell Me this man isn't a troubled man, drinking to try and forget something He never asked to know to begin with!

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 10:09:30 am

If, and I stress IF, SFPD do have knowledge of who Zodiac likely was/is (Chief Lee seemed to make some very personal and specific remars about The Man behind the persona. Possible Latent Homosexual, far from criminal genius He thinks He is because He has allowed Himself to be seen by several witnesses (We can add/replace the word 'seen' with 'Identified' in one instance) and Lee asserted He's confident Z will be apprehended in the very near future saying "It's just a matter of if, but when." Lee went on to declare The Man completely sane & competent to be put on trial, and that He knows right from wrong. How Lee can suspect an individual of being a closeted gay man without knowing the man first is baffling to Me, as is how He can assert as fact 'Zodiac - Legally Sane. He knows right from wrong." A professional Psychologist or any qualified mental Health professional cannot give someone diagnosis without assessing the individual first in person. Yet, apparently, SFPD Homicide Chiefs Can.

If they are aware or seriously suspect a certain person responsible for Z crimes then a follow up of silence is not, I would think anyway, due to fear, intimidation or even High Status or Wealth of the real Zodiac and far more likely to be a silence to save their own blushes and Dpt's reputation. What am I saying? If the SFPD are covering up the identity of Z (and I am by no means suggesting I believe they are) then for Me, straight away, Zodiac is/was back then, a cop of some significant rank which, again, would see Patrol Cops allow Him on His way. You can't detain a superior officer, this is lunacy! Let serial Homicidal lunatic go, this is a better and more plausible idea!

Alex Lewis
9/9/2016 02:29:11 pm

"Inspector Toschi advised . . ." and at that point I have to pause reading in order to allow the dismissive laughing and "Pahh!!" expression on I feel. See Rich My personality type is such that if I know they, SFPD, or anyone for that matter has lied once about something relevant, then every single claim, statement or testimony I read from that source thereafter I do so with one eyebrow raised. I don't choose to do it, and I have been called non trusting even cynical in the past but to Me it's just the logic.

Reason follows rationality and if I know you;ve stolen something from Me once Rich, then I can choose to forgive and stay friends with you but I can tell you mate it would go against rationality and be completely stupid, counter-intuitive of Me to invite you over to my place and then go down the shops for a few beers leaving you at free liberty tohelp yourself. That is just a kind of analogy as to How I see and respond to proven liars.
It's My Dad's fault mate, growing up as a kid He said over and over "A thief I can stand, but not a Liar." That's not meant to be taken as Literal Rich as you know, it's a analogy in itself to get across that as much as others hate and detest thieves....I hate liars more.

Richard
9/11/2016 03:57:58 pm

As 'sectarianviolins' shows on Zodiac Killer Site forum, Xenophon Anthony was resident in San Marino in 1966. San Marino, California is only 54 miles from Riverside.
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=3080&p=49779#p49779

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Riverside,+CA,+USA/San+Marino,+CA,+USA/@34.0132078,-118.2451717,160371m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x80dca6df7ff47dbb:0xf7a1d705135e0ae8!2m2!1d-117.3961564!2d33.9533487!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c2c4b59c29f3e5:0xaa7edafd5138f9c8!2m2!1d-118.1064585!2d34.121397?hl=en

Richard
9/12/2016 11:48:55 pm

Alex; there are lots of other documents that likely contain information on Xenophon Anthony. Look at the document above, Reference No;9-2296, FBI file no;9-49911, Latent case no; A-10042.
The file no incorporates many documents from the FBI, but the latent case is referring to the fingerprints (A-10042)
Now go to Zodiac pdf file 1 page 69 where you will see FROM SAN FRANCISCO (9-2296) and lower down 9-49911 written.
Same with page 70, 71, Page 71 is really interesting stating "appears to be the type of individual who could be the Zodiac Killer. Furnished on a confidential basis by .....and is enclosed. The above stated they have been following the activities of this killer through the newspapers and feel that (redacted) could be identical with him."
I wonder who this individual is.
It gets really interesting on page 72. It says that the above stating they are only giving this information if their identity is concealed.
Scroll to page 76 and 77, What is interesting here are both redacted names, which have FBI attached to them, just like the document above, which has FBI just above Xen's name, indicating likely an existing held file.
On page 78 they are comparing prints from Berryessa, latent case A-12397 to latents from our document above, San Francisco latent case A-10042, but look at the redacted section where it says "Latent impression in latent case A-12397 compared available fingerprints of (redacted). I think the redacted area says ANTHONY. You can just see the Y at the end that they failed to cover.
I have a feeling these documents go a lot further back than October 22nd 1969, pertaining to your subject, but many of the previous pages are blacked out.
http://www.zodiacciphers.com/uploads/4/9/7/1/4971630/zodiac1.pdf

Alex Lewis
9/17/2016 05:15:15 pm

"Alex; there are lots of other documents that likely contain information on Xenophon Anthony. "

I wouldn't bet against it. However Rich, I shall use the SFPD's silence on this whole witness and identification of Xen as possibly subject responsible for Paul's murder and assume that the crucial info I personally want, won't be in any public Doc. Such as: Who was the witness? Where were they located? What did they claim to see? etc etc.

I will have a bet with you Richard that SFPD have wrote a detailed account of this identification incident and it's to be found in some inter - departmentmental Memo Titled: 'For Chief of Homicide'

Alex Lewis
9/17/2016 06:46:52 pm

It's not by accident that this witness and the whole Ident. scenario are mentioned only in a footnote, and there is no specifics or details known to us due to them never writing it in their reports.

The Latin Law Maxim warns against this very thing when it announces: Dolosus versatur generalibus - A deceiver deals in generals.

Alex Lewis
9/18/2016 07:29:54 pm

"I have a feeling these documents go a lot further back than October 22nd 1969, pertaining to your subject,"

Not My Suspect Rich, I don't feel comfortable with that term. If I describe something as 'My' such as 'My Laptop' or 'My Motorcycle' then these are Mine because I've decided these specific things are I want to have. I don't know mate suppose it's just a person thing but the term 'My Suspect' instantly comes with an implication attached that I've simply chosen this thing or person to be Mine.

Similarly can be said for Kane. Imagine Me appearing on Montel, or S.J.R Show maybe where I am asked by Sally requests for Her viewers benefit:

"So, Alex, I wonder if You could go back to the beginning and tell us how Lawrence Klein aka Kaye came to be Your Suspect?"

Certainly Sally, My pleasure. Lawrence became My suspect after winning Him in the local travelling funfair where the standard game is hit there targets with darts to win a gold fish. I hit three out of three but unfortunately it was discovered they had ran out of goldfish as the prize and so, because they felt obligated to award Myself a prize, they presented Me with Lawrence Klein as a good-will gesture. I had to get a much bigger fish tank to keep My New Pet suspect in but Larry seemed to object to this and absconded constantly."

Xenophon I did not decided to suspect or have Him be even a generally considered suspect. Xenophon did not secure My suspicious attention nor could I even have suspected Him if it were My desire to secure a new pet for by barren looking fish tank.

I didn't choose Xen Rich, nor did I become suspect of Him based on circumstantial linkages such as may be seen with all other suspects. Xenophon via a no hint of an Ident anywhere in SFPD Crime reports, aftermath reporting/documentation etc of A witness making a positive identification of a suspect as 'Possibly responsible', this suspect and His whole mysterious silence in police & media reporting etc. . . . I did not offer Him My suspicion Rich, He and The actions, or lack thereof by SFPD, all contributed to a demand He be immediately propelled to Prestigious spot on Most Suspected List. He, They, Xen and Toschi & Co. demanded He be suspected

Richard
9/18/2016 11:01:17 pm

"I have a feeling these documents go a lot further back than October 22nd 1969, pertaining to your subject,"
SUBJECT Alex, not SUSPECT.

Richard
9/15/2016 11:41:19 am

http://www.zodiacciphers.com/uploads/4/9/7/1/4971630/zodiac5_pages_1-249.pdf

Take a look at page 3 Welsh. I am assuming this is Robert Hale West, but he's military nonetheless. Kathleen Johns was abducted on March 22nd 1970, near Patterson. Patterson had the Crows Landing Naval Auxiliary Air Station at the time. The next correspondence after the Modesto attack was the '13 Symbol' cipher with the number 8 symbols. This is the Naval Auxiliary Air Station patch.

https://usnavypatch.com/collections/naval-stations-facilities-bases-and-command-insignia/products/naval-auxiliary-air-station-crows-landing-california-patch

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0401/2973/products/6709_blk_gold_anchor_back_em_080c586c-c969-48ec-b1f6-917e6f596249_large.JPG?v=1428867787

Richard
9/16/2016 03:22:22 pm

Alex help yourself to these documents for your site.

Alex Lewis
9/18/2016 03:09:55 am

My Site. . .

Would you be referring to My Site 'Lawrence Kane - Zodiac Killer? Now it comes to My attention that Googling the Name: 'Lawrence Kane' will return a total number of 12,6000,000 resulting pages. Now I thin I must point out, although it gives Me no great pleasure to do so, that My site and Page is found at Position No. 1 in the results. Page 1, Site 1.

Now there will be people that may not know Me that are reading this mumbling to themselves "What an arrogant twat! Listen to it!!"

Muhahaha. Your websites are only as good as those that use the forums to comment and I think I'e been f'ing fabulous if I'm honest. With all Humbleness I wish to demand I be bestowed the MBE from Elizabeth II, Queen of England! (Hang on.....I'm Welsh!!)

If I upload any documents from here Rich I'll email to give you a heads up making sure your OK with it.

Richard
9/18/2016 03:37:10 am

"What an arrogant twat! Listen to it!!"

Good job I know you then Mr Welsh, but don't get too cocky or your membership will be revoked forthwith and I will have to report you to my friends at the FBI. We are on first name terms now and your water supply may be at risk. Beware I am stalking your neighbourhood now, yours truly Deepthroat.

Alex Lewis
9/18/2016 10:11:41 am

"Good job I know you then Mr Welsh, but don't get too cocky or your membership will be revoked forthwith and I will have to report you to my friends at the FBI."

Funny You should say that because the I saw the comment Judy left saying: 'What a wonderful site. . . etc" I was going to reply:

"Quite! Quite! What you'll find here at My website is a relaxed attitude to all people of differing opinion. Rest assured that at no point will you see Moderators Charging into conversations to edit or change what you said because I don't run this site under such Tyranny. Although I am going to Hae to unleash a Mod if Richard keeps saying He created, owns and runs this website which is a false and deplorable piece of speculative propaganda. Judy: "Is it your site then Alex?" WelshChappie: "No, it's Richards. I really have No idea what I am talking about..... I was posting articles and comments here about the David Berkowitz. No idea how I landed here, fell through Skylight and was given My own thread here too! I'm in communications with the FBI trying to trump up a false Imprisonment Charge as I haven't found a way out yet. I think I over-heard Richard say If The One that hath the possible Welsh Ancestry tries leaving, He'll be shot dead on sight."

Hehe but I didn't wanna scare Judy off so thought better of it. :-)

scout69
9/27/2016 03:06:45 pm

remember when you are in the top of any building is harder to get the right description of someone.....that is why the witness from Paul give the description no right ZODIAC back in those days he was heavy set muscular because use to work out harder..........but he always have a pat belly....he say so.

ophion1031 link
11/27/2016 02:16:38 am

Why are there 4 named suspects in the document? Did the 8 year old tell the cops that the man he saw could be one of those 4 men or what? I'm kinda lost...

Richard
11/27/2016 02:31:54 am

This document is I believe just a list of suspects to be checked out by fingerprint comparison, one of which just happened to be Xenophon Anthony. The 8 year old, who almost certainly lived in the residence overlooking the taxicab crime scene, only identified Anthony, nobody else. This 8 year old was a boy aged 8 years and 2 months on October 11th 1969. Robert Robert Lathrop von Hafften was born on August 4th 1961, making him 8 years of age on October 11th 1969.

Timmmmay
12/18/2016 10:06:11 pm

Timmmmay!!!!!

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8/22/2020 06:14:41 pm

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Homophonic cipher - Backwards

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