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THE ZODIAC ATLANTA LETTER

9/1/2019

 
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After the final flurry of communications had ceased in 1971, many have speculated on a killer who upped sticks and left the state of California. One dubious Zodiac letter was received nearly a decade later in 1981, postmarked Atlanta, Georgia and mailed to the television station WXIA-TV "11 Alive" at 1611 West Peachtree Street, 30308 on March 8th. Wayne Williams was a serial killer attributed with twenty plus murders in Atlanta between 1979 and 1981, primarily that of children. However, Wayne Williams was only ever convicted in the murders of Jimmy Ray Payne (21) on April 23rd 1981 and Nathaniel Cater (27) on May 22nd 1981, both of whom were adults. This has led some people to question whether Wayne Williams was responsible for any or some of the murders attributed to him. Wayne Williams wasn't arrested until June 21st 1981, which in retrospect, makes the alleged Zodiac letter on March 8th 1981 claiming he was responsible for some of the Atlanta child murders even more interesting. This letter was mailed 3 1/2 months prior to the arrest of Wayne Williams. Is it possible the Zodiac Killer was responsible for some or any of the child murders just over 2,300 miles from California, bearing in mind the doubt that has surrounded the crimes? Let us examine the letter and a similar threat received in the same timeframe. 

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Two black children and three black adults were murdered in March that year, with the three adults aged between 20 and 23 years, murdered between March 20th and March 25th of 1981. The letter stated:

Hello its me. Haven't you people figured out who is killing these little people yet. I'll give you a hint, I used to be in San Francisco. I used to stalk women, but I like to kill children now. At all my victims bodies I have left certain clues, but I guess it's too much for you Rebels to handle. So I guess I'll have to tell you. I'll (to) kill children because they are so easy to "pick off: Buy the way, if you still have letters from the other murders, I am not writing in the same hand writing. 

Both letters contain racist overtones, with the use of the capitalized Rebels and the demand to stop Forced Bussing.
Patriots (also known as Revolutionaries, Continentals, Rebels, or American Whigs) were those colonists of the Thirteen Colonies who rejected British rule during the American Revolution and declared the United States of America as an independent nation in July 1776. Their decision was based on the political philosophy of republicanism as expressed by spokesmen such as Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Thomas Paine. They were opposed by the Loyalists who supported continued British rule. Soldiers fighting for the southern states in the American Civil War were called rebels. Wikipedia. Therefore, by invoking the title of Rebels may indicate the identity or character of the person behind the letter, particularly if he was also responsible for the short note, stating "Please stop forced bussing or I will kill 3 more black boys in Atlanta in March".  

Busing, also called desegregation busing in the United States, was the practice of transporting students to schools within or outside their local school districts as a means of rectifying racial segregation. Although American schools were technically desegregated in 1954 by the landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision handed down in Brown v. Board of Education (1954), in practice they remained largely segregated owing to trends in housing and neighbourhood segregation. Busing came to be the main remedy by which the courts sought to end racial segregation in the U.S. schools, and it was the source of what was arguably the biggest controversy in American education in the later 20th century.
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Integrated busing in Charlotte, North Carolina, 1973
With extremely limited information available to be gleaned from these communications, we have to consider the possibility that the author chose the WXIA-TV "11 Alive" Station at 1611 West Peachtree Street because he may have lived or worked somewhere close to this location. Because the letter was mailed on March 8th 1981, we shall look at three of the recent victims from January 22nd 1981 to March 2nd 1981 - that of Terry Pue (15), Patrick Baltazar (11) and Joseph Bell (15), who were last seen at 4796 Memorial Drive, 201 Courtland Street and Westview Drive respectively. These locations are all within an 8.5 mile radius of the television station. But it is the abduction and murder of Terry Pue on January 22nd 1981 that we will concentrate on, primarily because of the telephone calls that accompanied this crime. Telephone calls with a racist overtone, similar to the correspondence above. These calls and letters could have been a diversionary tactic to throw off police, employed to place the murders squarely at the feet of the Ku Klux Klan or some other white supremacy group, but equally we have to consider the Zodiac Killer because of the claims in the letter - however slim that possibility.
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An excellent website covering the Atlanta Child Murders is http://atkid.weebly.com, from which this excerpt has been taken: "Terry Pue's body was found off Sigman Road in Rockdale County by a passerby.  This was where an anonymous man, on January 8th, called to tell police to find a boy's body. When police came up empty handed, the man called again, claiming he put another body there, just before Pue was found.  Another call, believed to be from the same man, was traced to North Indian Creek Drive. A couple years later, a second skeletal body was found in this area".

These were the sort of 'cat and mouse' games employed by the Zodiac Killer - although it is extremely difficult to sell this notion on the basis of a few telephone calls - even if they did contain a racial element to their content. This was featured in episode six (season 2) of the Mindhunter series by Joe Penhall. The author of the letter stated that he had left "certain clues" at all his victims bodies. If this were the case in respect to Terry Pue, what could he have possibly meant?

Earlier this year, Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms and Atlanta police chief Erika Shields announced that, following advancements in DNA technology, the city would be retesting evidence associated with the Atlanta child murders, a series of gruesome killings of more than 25 black children and adolescents in the late 1970s and early 1980s. During the press conference, Shields said there were boxes of evidence associated with the case, some of which had never been tested, and that the department believed it had a responsibility to the families of the victims to reopen the case. Rolling Stone.

Terry Pue was discovered strangled near to Interstate 20 on Sigman Road, wearing a blue windbreaker with the name "Kim" in red lettering on its rear, with dog hairs adhering to his clothing. But I doubt these are the sort of clues that Zodiac would have left behind for the police. The phone calls in the run up to the discovery of Terry Pue's body are an interesting feature of this crime, with the caller in one instance traced to the area of North Indian Creek Drive. This location is approximately 8.5 miles east of 1611 West Peachtree Street Northeast.

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BB
9/1/2019 01:36:27 pm

Wayne Bertram Williams (born May 27, 1958) is an American murderer serving life imprisonment for the 1981 killing of two adult men in Atlanta, Georgia, and believed by police to be responsible for at least 23 of the 30 Atlanta murders of 1979–1981, or the Atlanta Child Murders. He was never tried for the child murders and continues to maintain his innocence. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Richard
I one hundred percent agree with your speculation that WBW probably did not commit the killings of the child murders. The forensic evidence does not point towards his killings any of those. But the FBI had a guy they thought was a killer of two adults in the area. And they wanted to put an end to the hubbub. So they laid it all on Williams, and the media swallowed it as they always do. So that leaves us speculating if the child killer was the Zodiac. My thinking is that it really could have been. There is nothing definitively saying the Zodiac is eliminated from this possibility. So this should be seriously investigated. But it would have to be an independent investigation. Since you can't trust the FBI to do anything other than political rat fucking.

Richard
9/1/2019 02:19:29 pm

It is probably a long shot BB that the Zodiac Killer had any involvement in the murders - but stranger things have happened. What interests me particularly is the timing of the letter, either from Zodiac or a copycat. If the author of the letter was a copycat, then why would they invoke the Zodiac Killer who was basically out of the news by 1981. Zodiac copycats existed during the late 1960s and early 1970s, but as time marched on, the reason for somebody to imitate the Zodiac Killer diminishes. Some people believe the 1986 letter was inspired by the February 1, 1986 Zodiac novel by Robert Graysmith, and the follow up 1987 letter piggybacking off this. But what was the catalyst for invoking Zodiac on March 8th 1981. Was there a news story or Zodiac TV special. If not, the case for the real Zodiac Killer being responsible for this communication increases marginally. It is possible Wayne Williams was responsible for some of the murders, but as with many serial killer cases, it seems police are all too eager to shovel all the crimes onto one individual, get the cases off their back and appease a baying public. The interesting facet of this case, is the telephone calls and letters with a racial overtone, merging together under the name of Zodiac in 1981. A year when the Zodiac was effectively old news. I cannot say this is anything more than a copycat, but until the door is closed completely on a Zodiac connection, it is worthy of consideration.

Alex Lewis
9/3/2019 12:29:27 am

At the time the child murders were happening, many of the Black Community believed that a racist group or at min, person, was killing the black children of a community that was (going from memory alone) over 98% Black/African American. There was such anger when John Douglas created a profile of the killer suggesting he was a Black Male that Douglas had to leave Atlanta.

Douglas stated that of the murders were racially motivated, the killer as a White Male would be seen and stand out like the proverbial sore thumb in a almost 100% African American populated area where the abducted were taken from. He alone pointed out that serial killers (With Dahmer as exception) don't tend to cross racial boundaries.

I think Douglas was right in that the reason so many Black children went missing amidst a Black Community one after another after another is due to a black offender being responsible because A White Zodiac look alike with blonde crew cut trying to just be inconspicuous amount that community would not stand a chance let alone go on an abduction and murder spree.

Wayne Williams denying being responsible as he has all these years is to me anyway, whats expected of him. He knew the black community were fearing a racist group were responsible and he jumped on that band waggon, not sure if he still claims that today or not but he did Initially.

What is the alternative for Williams? Admit he's a child killer this become a hated & targeted inmate for the rest of his days & admitting that he is responsible, bang goes appeals and chance of new trail in favour of looking over his shoulder for the rest of his days, days and life left on Earth spending it with/in Dpt. of Corrections.

There's nothing to gain by admitting he's responsible and everything to lose like hope of one day getting out etc .

Richard
9/3/2019 12:49:51 am

Yes, I remember the profile went down like a lead balloon, unsurprisingly. But it is true that killers usually stay within racial boundaries - although one could argue that the Zodiac Killer wasn't your typical serial killer. I think what it boils down to Chappie, is whether the Zodiac had a hand in one or two murders and would then insinuate his involvement in more - or whether he had a hand in none, but still wrote the letter. This would at least eradicate the notion he was incarcerated for another crime/murder or had long died, thereby making other later communications of dubious ilk more believable.

Tom1
9/2/2019 06:08:31 am

I am currently working with someone who at one time was employed by the city of Atlanta. He worked closely with ATL PD and was involved with providing security for politicians and elected officials. He claims that there was an internal memo issued by LE that indicated involvement of the son of a high ranking military official in the Atlanta child murders. My co-worker does have some credibility issues and there is a definite racial component to this theory. I will question him further this week for more details.

Richard
9/3/2019 12:52:10 am

Yes, let us know Tom when you have some more information.

Tom1
9/5/2019 06:18:46 am

I am going to interview him at work this evening about his knowledge of this matter.

BB
9/1/2019 04:24:54 pm

If Zodiac was a serial killer and not KKK henchmen nor CIA Murder Killer MK-Ultras nor Satanic/Cult Waco's then he would do like all other serial killers, and degenerate as time goes on. I think going from killing couples to killing children constitutes a degree of degeneration. And, that same level of change should be matched by LE in the form of sophistication - evolving to be able to identify these killers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_phenotyping


Some of these child murder cases have potential DNA.
And if they were so inclined - if they wanted to - the profile of Atlanta's child killer could be compared. In time through facial reconstruction that can be profiled from the DNA, may show us the face of the Zodiac killer.

Mo
9/1/2019 05:02:05 pm

Very interesting post.

While it is not unusual for some people to boast of crimes they did not commit, there are two issues that come to mind regarding a possible Zodiac / Atlanta Child Murders connection:

First, Zodiac had previously taunted that “school children make nice targets.” Therefore, the “real” Zodiac had already given the whole world a heads-up that he was considering killing school kids.

Second, regarding the racial aspect of the Atlanta child murders, remember the reference to the “imperial wizard” in an ad that appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle that referenced Zodiac. Imperial Wizard is a kkk reference and many people believe the klan was involved in the Atlanta murders.

Perhaps the above is a long-shot. However, until either case is resolved, everything is possible.

Richard
9/2/2019 01:05:56 am

This goes to the heart of a copycat or Zodiac, on whether the author had intrinsic knowledge of Zodiac terms and phrases because it was Zodiac, or because he revisited or remembered the Zodiac material. The author may have just dropped in some Zodiac-like phrases to convince us he was the Zodiac, but why didn't he just mimic the handwriting of Zodiac also, rather than creating the haphazard style exhibited. The 1978 letter was criticized for looking too traced and similar to Zodiac, whereas in instances like this, the difference is used to dismiss the original Zodiac as being the author. But yes Mo, it's certainly possible it was Zodiac, with a huge dose of scepticism.

Mo
9/2/2019 03:42:42 am

I too don’t think there’s a connection, but am not prepared to dismiss it altogether for a couple of reasons:

1. It’s not about terms and phrases, but about deeds. You have a serial killer expressing a willingness to kill school children and then, a decade later, school kids are being killed en masse. Also, you have a reference to an imperial wizard and all the Atlanta victims are black. Again, it’s less about what the Atlanta killer said and more about what he did.

2. The handwriting issue can be looked at a bit differently. If it was a copy cat, he might have tried to mimic Zodiac’s handwriting with it’s slight tilt to the right. Basically, when you try to forge something, you try to make it look the same. However, the handwriting on the Atlanta letter is erratic and suggests he didn’t really care to try to make it look the same as Zodiac. It suggests a certain degree of self
confidence/arrogance in who he is.

The above being said, all of the known Zodiac’s victims were white, which is inconsistent with the Atlanta murders. But then no one really knows how a serial killer thinks.

BB
9/1/2019 06:22:46 pm

Yes. We are wildly speculating. But hopefully the gullible will read with enough care so as not to be drawn into believing. Belief is the opposite of science. It is not what we are trying to achieve (getting people to believe) here. I think we are simply exploring the possibilities with a mind that is anything-but-made-up. You can't get any-where using a fixed head. Certainty is great for our day-to-day coping. But we must let our guard down in order to let in new ideas. This way of thinking causes most people a great deal of anxiety - although with practice one can learn self-control. You don't have to lash out. Just breathe. Learn to shut it off and on. You are in control of yourself. The only thing you really control - is yourself. The secular perspective is abhorrent of groups like the KKK. They demand certainty at all times. "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." Emerson

Rubislaw 32 link
9/1/2019 07:38:23 pm

Just taking this opportunity,Richard,to let your readers know about the Joseph Kennedy FBI File 1.

''Jack had to die'',''Bobby had to die'',''Ted has to die''.

''Bates had to die'' [?].

And,perhaps a reminder that the Ted Kennedy FBI File 9...is a pretty good example of an extortionist '' on the rampage '',with some defacing,in the form of Mikado characters,to boot.

The Zodiac [?].

Richard
9/2/2019 01:27:28 am

Are you referencing ''Jack had to die'',''Bobby had to die'',''Ted has to die' in relation to the trinity of Bates' letters Rubislaw - which stated "Bates had to die" and "She had to die" (in total 3 times). I also noticed that one correspondence in the list stated "Do you propose Tedd to be the next victum", spelling the simple word "victim" with a U, just like the Zodiac used "Victom" and the Bates Confession letter stated "I lay awake nights thinking about my next "victon" or "victom". Very interesting find Rubislaw.

Rubislaw 32 link
9/2/2019 03:18:34 am

Thanks Richard...we have,in part,a ''Randolph Carter'',to thank.

I recommended him to the ''ZKM'' site,when he was gagging to put stuff out,but wanted to avoid the major sites.

BB
9/2/2019 05:09:56 pm

Rubislaw 32

You got me looking into the RFK must die notebook of Sirhan Sirhan. And I was reading how he was a Jockey. I wonder if he was ever a Jockey for Kjell Qvale. Hoover went to the track to gamble all the time. Also, Sirhan was a Rosicrucian which is a secret society. Perhaps there's a link there. Hoover's claim that there was no mafia makes me think that he was in the mob himself through his link at the track. They say Hoover never lost. He often stayed at the Murchison's Hotel Del Charro and would go to the Del Mar race track - where Sirhan worked.

https://books.google.com/books?id=LD8TUAGSuMoC&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=Clint+Murchison+owned+the+race+track+in+california&source=bl&ots=354kABetUk&sig=ACfU3U3xa-QF-D0i6tI0ugs26jo0_ze6_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1vMXmq7PkAhVzLH0KHdciD-AQ6AEwEnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=Clint%20Murchison%20owned%20the%20race%20track%20in%20california&f=false

Rubislaw 32 link
9/2/2019 07:49:21 pm

Possibly interesting connctions there....and,as you mention,BB,Sirhan Sirhan deserves a look at.

Kjell Qvale,Randolph Hearst and Charles Cella were all well known racehorse owners.Hearst and Cella [Chocolate magnate] were both being extorted by the ''North Hollywood Hoaxer'',in 1974....linked by an identical typewriter....with the extortion of Cella,not actually illustrated in FBI files,but mentioned by the FBI ''in despatches''.

Yes...Hoover was known was well known to have had a predilection for gambling on horse races.He had a personal ''bookie'' who,had to pay out any winnings to Hoover....but accept [usual] losses that Hoover incurred [LOL].The ''upside'' for the bookie was,that he probably was introduced to other ''luminary'' customers...that ''did'' actually pay up,when they lost.

Rubislaw 32 link
9/1/2019 08:49:06 pm

Yes....this set of Joseph Kennedy Snr. FBI Files is ''freshly'' out.

Initially,it seems to be an extortionist,writing short letters,by hand,to Joseph Kennedy,telling him that his son,Teddy,should not run for President.

These letters go back,specifically,to the latter part of 1968,in the wake of Bobby Kennedy's assassination.So,the run in,to LHR,also [?].

It's just the first two FBI Files....then the files concern themselves to matters,going back to 1956.

Could be that,this is a ''gift'' to Zodiac enthusiasts,then [?].

These short letters,seem to mostly have been posted,from Boston.

Could be,that the Zodiac gave up on Teddy Kennedy,at that point,when he committed the double murder,at LHR [?].

Looks like there are some new Richard Nixon FBI Files,also,just out into the public domain.I'll see what I can find out.

Richard
9/2/2019 01:48:45 am

In 1937, Joseph P. Kennedy received an honorary Doctor of Laws degree from Oglethorpe University. Curiously, Oglethorpe University is situated at 4484 Peachtree Rd. NE. Brookhaven, Georgia.

Rubislaw 32 link
9/2/2019 03:12:35 am

Ouch ! That sounds an interesting connection [?].

Of course,Richard....this ''Jack had to die'' etc.....does highlight the ''small'' coincidence of ''Two Josephs''...Bates and Kennedy.

Am not getting much back,from the new Nixon FBI stuff....so it looks like,the first two Joseph Kennedy files,is all we are going to get [?].

But,better than a jab in the eye,with a blunt stick.

I just ''love'' the lower case '' f's ''....and the lower case '' y's '',are none too shabby,either [?].

Rubislaw 32 link
9/2/2019 04:28:51 am

Yes...I'm only just starting to take it all in [...optimism only,of course...].

Not least,the FBI have released a fair amount,now,on Joseph Kennedy.

But,it is the first one and a half files....that go straight to that post Bobby Kennedy assassination [June 1968...to the end of 1968 [LHR]..].Plus,Bobby was assassinated,in Greater L.A.,where it appears that the Zodiac had made,at least,some sort of home,for himself,circa Bates murder.

Then,there is the Boston/M.A. ''angle'' on mailing these letters to Joseph Kennedy and Adlai Stevenson.

Time and again,I find [....not least Joan Webster murder,1981,and New Canaan Letters 1988...and Scorpion ciphers,into the 1990's..],that Newark [NY] and Logan Airport [M.A.]....come into play.

Newark and Logan Airports were the gateway to Western Europe,and in reverse,to the USA mainland.So,wherever the Zodiac happened to be located,at a given time....he would be constantly using Newark and Logan,if a frequent trans-Atlantic ''flyer''.

Food for thought,anyway.

Rubislaw 32 link
9/3/2019 04:49:22 pm

As readers who view the Joseph Kennedy FBI Files 1&2,they largely concern the work of an extortionist,writing three letters to Teddy Kennedy,one to his wife,Ethel,and one to senior advisor,Adlai Stevenson.These letters have been mailed fom Boston.

At the outset of File 1,the viewer is introduced to a lengthy handwritten letter to Joseph Kennedy,father of Teddy.The inference is,that this letter,is written by the same extortionist,as the other five,though,for the main part,displays a disparity in handwriting style.

This first letter was mailed from New York City.It is dated February 29th 1964.The letter starts :

''Dear Sir,I hope that you are feeling well....''

And ends :

''Good luck''

The letter has been addressed to The White House,Washington D.C.,although headed,on the envelope : Palm Beach,Florida.

Through the postmark,on the envelope,I believe that I have traced the letter's posting point to Pennsylvania Railway Station,New York.

Possibly more than a coincidence that,the letter's intended destination,is :

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

February 29th 1964 was three months,after the assassination of Jack Kennedy.

The letters,in 1968,to Teddy,Ethel and Adlai,started to arrive just days after Bobby's assassination,June 1968.

[...correction to above,Ethel being Bobby's widowed wife,and Teddy's sister-in-law...]

Tom1
9/5/2019 03:22:02 pm

Well here is the story. I have a co-worker who worked for Andrew Young's mayoral campaign organization. After he was elected my co-worker secured a position in the solicitors office of the Municipal Court in Atlanta. Sometime after Mr, Young assumed office a Private Investigator mailed him a report on the Atlanta child hood murders. My co worker claims to have obtained a copy of the report through a personal assistant to the mayor. The report indicated that the perpetrator was the son of a Rear Admiral in the navy, stationed in the Pentagon. It highlighted some gruesome details of the murders not released to the public.It also indicated that every where that the perpetrator had been stationed, he was also in the navy, there were some unsolved childhood murders. Subsequently the report was stolen from my co worker's apartment. There have been several attempts to re-open the case without success. The story sounds plausible but of course there is no way to evaluate the veracity of the report from the PI.

Richard
9/6/2019 12:12:04 am

Therein lies the problem Tom, verifying the voracity of such claims. The Atlanta Child Murders have spawned numerous theories as explained in the above video and often, the longer time passes, the more incredible the stories become, as demonstrated by the Zodiac murders. Somebody has probably nailed it, but sorting the wheat from the chaff is becoming increasingly more difficult. I have no in depth knowledge of this case, but what I have read suggests Wayne Williams was responsible for one or two of the murders, but the fact that police have just "attributed" the child murders upon him is testament to the lack of compelling evidence required to secure a conviction. Even if Williams was innocent of all the crimes, it is without doubt he will never be released, because of the inability of the justice system to properly rectify its mistakes. Pride (and an inability to admit error) will often override justice.


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