THE PHANTOM ZODIAC LETTER ON JULY 8TH 1974 [PART TWO]

4/5/2020

Patricia Campbell Hearst

It has been shown recently that the February 3rd 1974 SLA letter and the July 8th 1974 Red Phantom letter were almost certainly authored by the same individual, assuming the author of the envelope in each case was responsible for its contents. The SLA envelope was not featured in the newspapers, so the author of the Red Phantom envelope could not have mimicked the address so accurately. It was also shown how the SLA letter was almost certainly authored by the Symbionese Liberation Army, who not only mailed it the day before Patty Hearst's kidnapping, but typed a letter and addressed it to the Hearst family on February 10th 1974 mimicking the introduction and signature of the SLA letter. Both communications began with "Dear" and ended with "a friend".

A friend of the Symbionese Liberation Army, associate of the group or a member themselves, had they authored the SLA letter and envelope, were with little doubt also responsible for authorship of the Red Phantom letter and envelope. The problem being that the Red Phantom letter was mailed on July 8th 1974, nearly two months after the deadly shootout with Los Angeles police on May 17th 1974 at the 1466 East 54th Street SLA hideout. Six members of the Symbionese Liberation Army died that day, including Nancy Ling Perry, Angela Atwood, Camilla Hall, Willie Wolfe, Donald DeFreeze and Patricia Soltysik. Therefore, it is patently obvious that none of these individuals were responsible for the Red Phantom letter, and by extension, the SLA letter. That reduces the pool drastically and could open the door to an associate or friend of the Symbionese Liberation Army.

Kathleen Ann Soliah

Kathleen Soliah was born in Fargo, North Dakota, while her family were living in Barnesville, Minnesota. When she was eight, her conservative Lutheran family relocated to Southern California. After graduating from the University of California, Santa Barbara, Soliah moved to Berkeley, California with her boyfriend, James Kilgore. There she met Angela Atwood at an acting audition where they both won lead roles. They became inseparable during the play's run. Atwood tried to sponsor Soliah into the SLA. Regardless, Soliah and Kilgore, along with her brother Steve and sister Josephine, followed the SLA closely without joining. It is apparent these were fringe players in the early days of the Symbionese Liberation Army, but nonetheless sympathizers and friends who would later play a more integral part.

Sara Jane Olson (born Kathleen Ann Soliah on January 16, 1947) was one possible author of the SLA letter. She grew up in Palmdale, California, the daughter of Norwegian-American parents, Elsie Soliah (née Engstrom) and Palmdale High School English teacher and coach Martin Soliah. Engström, Engstrøm and Engstrom are surnames of Swedish and Norwegian origin. Was she responsible for authoring the SLA letter on February 3rd 1974, one or two days before the kidnapping of Patricia Hearst? She was "a friend" of the Symbionese Liberation Army with close ties to Angela Atwood. She also had Scandinavian ancestry, that may have influenced the "Old Norse" reference on the SLA letter.

When Atwood and other key members of the SLA were killed in 1974 during a standoff with police in Los Angeles, the Soliahs organized memorial rallies, including a rally in Berkeley's Willard Park where Soliah spoke in support of her friend Angela Atwood while being covertly filmed by the FBI. Kathleen Soliah said that her fellow SLA members had been: "viciously attacked and murdered by 500 pigs in L.A. while the whole nation watched. Well, I believe that Gelina [Atwood] and her comrades fought until the last minutes, and though I would like to have her with me here right now, I know that she lived happy and she died happy. And in that sense, I'm so very proud of her. SLA soldiers – I know it is not necessary to say; but keep on fighting. I'm with you and we are with you". But if Kathleen Soliah was responsible for the February 3rd 1974 SLA letter, then she had to be responsible for the July 8th 1974 Red Phantom letter also (if we conclude the author of both envelopes were the same handwriting).

Marc H. Spinelli

As with many female members of the Symbionese Liberation Army, Kathleen Soliah was a staunch advocate of women's rights and equality, and the polar opposite of the image portrayed by Marc H. Spinelli in his column in the San Francisco Chronicle. The Count Marco column drew regular ire from its female readership, who branded Count Marco a misogynist. The obituary of Marc H. Spinelli began with "Marc H. Spinelli, better known to Chronicle readers as Count Marco, a columnist who gave outrageous advice to women for 15 years. As Count Marco, Mr. Spinelli was a star performer in a circulation war in the 1960s between The Chronicle and other Bay Area newspapers. At the height of his fame, he wrote his newspaper column, appeared on his own daily television show, wrote three books, won prizes and developed a huge audience that was either amused or appalled by his words".

Therefore, it wouldn't have been too surprising if his column inches had caught the attention of one of the female members or associates of the Symbionese Liberation Army, who were voracious letter-writers throughout 1974. In the September and October of 1976 Olson, under the name Nancy Bennett, was still involved in female activism, appearing in two feminist plays in Seattle. She disappeared after four performances. The viability of female authorship through the SLA and Red Phantom envelope handwriting, makes her a credible candidate (although not a certainty). But there is one other crucial factor that links the SLA letter and Red Phantom letter together.

In 1969, James Kilgore began dating Kathleen Soliah. She joined a band of extremists known as the Symbionese Liberation Army or SLA. In 1974, Soliah introduced Kilgore to group members Emily and Bill Harris. He soon became involved in the organization. He helped create fake IDs for several of the members and began orchestrating bank robberies. They claimed that they committed the robberies so they could finance their plan to overthrow the government. In late February of 1975, SLA members held up the Guild Savings and Loan in Sacramento. On April 21, 1975, Kilgore, Soliah, the Harrises, and Michael Bortin decided to rob the Crocker National Bank in Carmichael, California. At the same time, forty-two-year-old Myrna Opsahl and two of her friends arrived at the bank, planning to deposit money from their church group. Unsolved Mysteries. So it is fairly obvious Kathleen Soliah and James Kilgore, heavily bound to the Symbionese Liberation Army, were extremely close to one another.

James William Kilgore

James William Kilgore was born in California, graduating from San Rafael High School in 1965. Kathleen Ann Soliah grew up in Palmdale, Los Angeles, California. Los Angeles and San Francisco were the two headquarters of the Symbionese Liberation Army.

The February 3rd 1974 SLA letter (Old Norse being spoken by inhabitants of Scandinavia) was mailed from Los Angeles, where Kathleen Soliah grew up with her Norwegian-American parents, and the July 8th 1974 Red Phantom letter was mailed from San Rafael (where boyfriend of Soliah, James Kilgore spent his early years). Two members and/or close associates of the Symbionese Liberation Army with close ties to both these locations.

Whether the SLA letter or Red Phantom letter were mailed by Kathleen Soliah cannot be proven, but with little doubt, these two communications were likely authored by the same individual. If a member of the Symbionese Liberation Army was responsible for the SLA letter, then a high probability exists they mailed a communication to Count Marco also.

THE PHANTOM ZODIAC LETTER ON JULY 8TH 1974 [PART ONE]

Rubislaw 32 link

4/5/2020 09:00:32 am

Just a general rumination , Richard , I remember reading about rumour , at one time ( ...believe it to be at Michael Cole's good site...) that the Zodiac may have written to '' Count Marco '' twice , in the lead up to the '' Red Phantom '' letter , that was , of course .written to Marc Spinelli's editor .

And , given possible evidence available , the Zodiac may have attempted contact with '' Count Marco '' going back a number of years .

The inference , I believe is , that the Zodiac was a long-time fan of the '' Count Marco '' column , and believed that he , the Zodiac , might strike up a regular relationship , as such , with a columnist , Spinelli , and was not prepared for a rejection of sorts , that culminated in the '' Red Phantom '' letter .

One possibility is , that the FBI's counter-intelligence played on this '' uncertain '' correspondence relationship , ensuing behind the scenes and , put an end to it by hoaxing the '' Red Phantom '' letter , as a means of provoking the Zodiac further ( ? ) .

It's quite apparent now that counter-intelligence did play with the Zodiac's correspondences , at times , but one has to wonder to what extent was there a '' purpose '' and indeed , an '' end game '' perceived by the '' authorities ''.

As a general observation and consideration , I see the phenomenon of the Zodiac Killer , as an '' enemy of the state '' among a number of '' enemies of the state '' such as Black Extremism and the SLA , that agencies like the FBI had to shoulder and defeat .

But , often was the case that , the case of the Zodiac Killer took an '' under card '' priority , particularly when events such as Patty Hearst's kidnapping came about . The case of the Zodiac Killer was '' work in progress '' which was often put aside , to be picked up again , at a quieter time , for the '' authorities '' , and often '' lack of follow through '' may have contributed to the case remaining unsolved .

Richard

4/5/2020 09:58:07 am

When the SLA, black power movement and Weather Underground were around, the FBI and law enforcement had real bombs to contend with and the Zodiac Killer was a dwindling ember by 1974, so was certainly shelved for more pressing cases. If there was a second letter to Count Marco, I haven't heard of it, but would like to find out its validity. I shall have a rummage around. The possibility of FBI/police sending out a "test Zodiac letter" to stir up a response and possibly an error from the real Zodiac is an intriguing one, but of course would run the risk of provoking or inspiring him to more murder. That may have been a dangerous tactic - albeit they called him sexually inadequate, a psychopath and a latent homosexual, among others. Not very responsible if you are attempting not to provoke and reduce the body count.

The Red Phantom text of "whence", "superior", and "since" in the context they are written, appears more of a feminine style of writing, along with the poetic and artistic style. I may be biased however. I don't know how a handwriting analysis determined this was definitely Zodiac, with David Toschi agreeing almost immediately. I cannot see much resemblance to Zodiac at all. Not to mention he can now spell psychological, anonymously, consternation, sensibilities, evidenced and glorification, when he couldn't spell comedy and satirical just 6 months earlier. As well as his numerous misspellings from 69 to 71. That dyslexia or poor education cleared up quickly.

Rubislaw 32 link

4/5/2020 10:01:13 am

Certainly '' telling '' ( ? ) :

Count Marco column , July 1st 1974 :

'' You might possess a thing or an object , and you yourself might even be possessed , as in the film '' The Exorcist ''. But you can't possess another person . ''

One week later , July 8th 1974 : The Zodiac's '' Red Phantom '' Letter .

Richard

4/5/2020 10:06:31 am

Absolutely,
July 1st 74 "The Exorcist"
July 3rd 74 "Psychiatry"

4/5/2020 01:31:17 pm

Ralph Spinelli could be linked to Marc H. Spinelli.

Ralph had some dealings with ALA.

Mark worked alongside Paul Avery at the San Francisco Chronicle.

How much of the correspondence of all these groups were altered?

And how did the San Francisco Chronicle resist the same urge to

distort the letters and get under the Zodiac's skin and/or that of the SLA?

And, getting them to act-out emotionally so they blow their cover?

By the way Drew Beeson has just updated his YouTube again.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxv5EfTss01iDhELoBZwdDw

Richard

4/6/2020 03:56:21 am

Regarding the Badlands letter, it protested the running of advertisements of the film Badlands. The SLA had a hatred for the Hearst family newspaper empire, so it was rather unusual that William Randolph Hearst had protested the running of advertisements for the Citizen Kane movie in 1941. Were the SLA having a dig at the Hearst family by invoking this connection, particularly because the Badlands card was postmarked May 8th, the exact date that Citizen Kane was released in Los Angeles. Not forgetting the "Citizen" reference with "A Citizen". But why would a member of the SLA choose this film to highlight. Kathleen Soliah was born in North Dakota. The Badlands movie featured murders in South Dakota. However, we cannot fully dispel the notion this letter was from Zodiac yet.

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 05:40:18 am

I'll just chip in , BB , to add that no evidence has emerged of a link between Ralph Spinelli and Marc Spinelli .It is quite a common Italian surname .

They seem to be from entirely different social spheres .

Marc Spinelli was ,as it appears , a gay and flamboyant character , who knew how to spin a few words out in print , that caught a particular chord of the day . That being , a tired and increasingly ridiculousness of male chauvinism .

And yet , some women thought that Count Marco was for real , and Spinelli was known to have his face slapped in public , by an irate lady or two .But for the most part , Spinelli's parody of a malaise in the gender divide was considered very amusing , and the Count Marco column a popular feature in many newspapers subscribed to its syndication , across America .

It does seem also , that Spinelli rarely paid a visit to the SF Chronicle , with his columns , more than likely , simply submitted to the Editor , with perhaps a few changes agreed upon , over the phone .Spinelli wasn't really part of the journalistic fraternity , like Avery , and made his living mostly through public appearances , such as opening new supermarkets .

If one is to buy into the authenticity of the Red Phantom letter , then I think that we might be viewing a fan of '' Count Marco '' , the Zodiac , who found that his efforts to engage with Spinelli , through correspondence , had been re-buffed , to the point of a bit of nastiness ensuing . Perhaps Spinelli had had enough of this '' weirdo '' , and wasn't willing to tow the line , as requested by LE and his Editor ?

A bit strange, perhaps ( ? ) , that an extortionist and murderer , The Zodiac , operating in the capacity of his persona ( The Zodiac / Red Phantom ) had lost the plot , and had started to forget that he was dealing with another persona , Count Marco , as opposed to the real Marc Spinelli .

4/6/2020 10:08:17 am

Rubislaw 32 - Thank you for that - Those Spinelli guys were true opposites. And yes - Marco was fascicle.

I have been dying though - to hear what you think about Don Lee Cheney's Secret Pal - Paul Averly.

They graduated the same year from the same little Junior college a hundred of miles from nowhere.

What base was Don stationed at?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7neGTHjsZmg

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 10:20:59 am

Very interesting about the Cheney and Averly link , BB . I'll see if I can find out more . Ok - educational circumstances may not amount to much , but their respective ages might be a clue , if they actually knew each other ( ? ) .

I believe that Lyndon Lafferty was a year younger than Arthur Allen , and at the same school . Lafferty thought that Allen being accused of being the Zodiac , was '' laughable ''. Historically , Allen is the most suspected '' Zodiac '' of all time....so, i suppose Lafferty's comment is a bit amusing , in itself .

4/6/2020 11:37:59 am

LL

Detective Sgt Les Lunblad posited a Andrew T Walker

CHP Lyndon Lafferty posited a George R Tucker

Both saying William J Grant should be the top POI but not wanting to be sued used pseudo names

Janet Lynn Mallicoat (21), a San Jose State college senior, was stabbed approximately 130 times in her 63 Keyes Street office, where she worked as a part-time receptionist for the Regal Map Company. She had then been set on fire with a flammable liquid and a pair of scissors were found protruding from her head. There was no evidence of sexual assault or robbery. Her employer, George Andrews, had traveled to San Francisco on business leaving her alone in the office. Janet Mallicoat was murdered on Thursday August 26th 1971, exactly 44 days after the mailing of the Monticello card, which claimed a connection to the Kathy Bilek murder and an inferred connection to the murders of Kathy Snoozy and Deborah Furlong.

The Monticello card read "Near Monticello Shought Victims 21 ...... In The Woods Dies April".
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/the-murder-of-janet-mallicoat

George Andrews is a real name that by shear chance is a blend of the two pseudo names
Mallicoat has the requisite LL
We see the rage of the Zodiac exhibited with no obvious sexual marker nor robbery as motive.
Is it possible that the two LL detectives pointing to the same man they disliked for different reasons (Grant)
were also saying by shear accidental coincidence that George Andrews should be investigated too? No! But for the hell of it. The man is named George - and the message of Washington and Cherry may be to look for someone named George.

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 12:07:25 pm

WJGrant was the first adult suspect for Lake Herman Road , and so became the first official Zodiac suspect .

In 1973 , Grants suspect status became illegal , on account of his court injunction victory , for police harassment ( The Vallejo P.D. ).
Thereafter he became referred to by various names since , it was even illegal to mention , or write his real name ( WJGrant ) , in public .
In 2003 , Grant was '' unofficially '' cleared as a Zodiac suspect by DNA , as with Arthur Allen who , was ''officially'' cleared , as a legal suspect .

The '' evidence '' as seems so often the case is , that whoever was the Zodiac , was attempting to place the blame on Grant who , we know now was technically innocent .

One has to wonder , in my estimation ,to what extent was Grant thought to be the actual Zodiac , when holding legitimate suspect status ( ? ) . And , to what extent was Grant a suspect , on the basis that it was believed that following Grant , would lead LE to the Zodiac ( ? ) .

Only the CA DOJ criminologists ( Special Agents ) and possibly one or two senior FBI men know the answer to that . But , Grant wasn't the Zodiac , QED .

4/6/2020 12:37:21 pm

Grant was the first adult suspect - to divert from that first suspect?
The boy that they still won't name?
He had threatened David.
His alibi is not so good since it's an officer he was with that was
supposedly protecting his informant. So you get off the hook for murder if you know a cop? There is evidence that it was potentially
a cop that was the killer. Why should we believe a cop that goes un-naming POI's. Too many cops being let off the hook too easy.
GSK

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 01:04:38 pm

Yes BB , '' Grant was the first adult suspect - to divert from that first suspect '' .....is certainly the implication , that I would suggest .

Except , of course , that they didn't know the identity of that '' suspect ''.

They only had Grant who , they believed might be being fitted up , as the real Zodiac - by the real Zodiac .

Probably , a combination of perceived same motorcar , cigarettte butts left at the crime scene....and Grant unable to offer a plausible alibi (...guessing of course , but enough on Grant , to keep investigating officers interested ....)

What I suggest , that one should consider is , whether the Zodiac just pulled Grant out of a phone directory , or similar ( ? )...OR , there was a very real reason why the Zodiac had focused his attention on Grant .

A vendetta of sorts , perhaps ( ? ) .

And, this is what I believe was the case .That senior cops '' upstairs '' were hoping that , between the Benicia cops and the Vallejo cops , they would get Grant to speak up .

But , Grant never did speak up and , kept the cops at arm's length from him , for the rest of his life .

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 01:31:07 pm

I believe that '' we '' and LE found that , in the case of the Lake Herman Road murders , that the two minor-age suspects were innocent .

One, who had a crush on Betty Lou , at school .

The other who , had got into a fight with David , at The Pancake House , just prior to David's murder . The guy ,as reported , was selling weed in the toilets , and David took it upon himself to take the law into his own hands , receiving a punch in the jaw , for his troubles .

It seems that David and Betty Lou went to the LHR car park , to cool off , after The Pancake House '' incident '' .

4/6/2020 02:13:02 pm

Exactly - now who was that-cop-that gave that boy the alibi? And what was that boy's name? Because that Alibi is BS. Was that boy Les Lunblad Jr.? Is that why Lunblad Sr. took the lead. The most assertive cop almost always gets the lead - Which Senior was. Junior went-on to shoot his wife in the face with shotgun. http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/ozs/739.html

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 03:04:57 pm

Well , it does seem that the two minor-age suspects checked out OK , in the end . I see what you mean on the weed dealer's alibi . Clearly the cops considered the possibility that he might have got into a car , himself , and followed David and Betty Lou to LHR .

What we do know is , that David's bruising to his jaw showed up , and was documented , in his autopsy . So, a physical altercation had , most likely , taken place .

Just to recommend '' Solving the Zodiac '' by C.Symons . This reference book contains many police reports , that are not often available still , on the internet . Just sticking to the 4 Bay area attacks and the murder of Cheri Jo Bates .

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 09:32:02 pm

On Avery and Cheney , BB , I have the following :

Paul Avery : April 2nd 1934 - December 10th 2000

Don Cheney : Born 1934

So , if Avery and Cheney went to the same school , they were probably in the same year , and possibly same class ( ? ) .

Paul Avery , as an investigative journalist , was known to have had a suspect of his own , on the side . But , no information beyond this .

Perhaps you might be on to something here , BB ( ? ) .

For , who can really pinpoint when and how Arthur Leigh Allen came to the attention of investigating police ( ? ) .

Is it possible that Paul Avery was the catalyst for Allen becoming a suspect , through his knowledge of Cheney ?

Further contributions to this , would be welcome .

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 09:37:03 pm

...was just confirming for myself , and was not disputing your claim .

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 09:51:50 pm

Don Cheney : April 24th 1934 - November 14th 2009

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 10:41:07 pm

I believe this is historically enlightening , anyway ( ? ) .

The notion that Graysmith was '' pulling '' information from Avery .

From what I surmised from Kevin Fagan , gossip among SF journalists , in the early days , was always really '' Allen vs. Grant '' .

Maybe that is why I got a '' fast track '' in , with Lafferty . I was a rarity , in that the work involved Grant , albeit coming at Grant , from a different direction to Lafferty .

And , Kevin Fagan can't complain about what he got out of me .

Rubislaw 32 link

4/6/2020 10:49:16 pm

And further , by 2003 , Cheney , Allen and Grant were all cleared by DNA . With Cheney 's voluntary .

It's just that the public didn't know about Grant's clearance , until circa 2013 . Lafferty having been the only member of the public to know about Grant's clearance , officially .

In effect , the public were in the know on Grant's clearance , once Grant was deceased .

Rubislaw 32 link

4/7/2020 06:59:41 am

I think that this is potentially a great spot , on a Cheney - Avery link , BB .
The implication that Paul Avery was actually the one who sowed the seeds and encouraged the interest , for police , in Arthur Leigh Allen . With Cheney prepared to burden suspect status , as an official '' accuser '' .

An insight being to illustrate the desperation of Paul Avery , and from a relatively early period , to allow Avery greater knowledge of what was happening , in police investigations , behind the scenes .

Well , the cops were never going to let Avery into the inner sanctum , to Avery's naivety and frustration perhaps ( ? ) . But , it also appears as if Robert Graysmith was picking up the crumbs , from the king's table ( ? ) .

Though Graysmith still wrote two good books , as an adopted diarist .

4/7/2020 11:33:52 am

What info is there on Ron Allen?

He was the best-man at Cheney's wedding.

Brother of #1 suspect ALA.

Keep your enemies closer.

Could Don have befriended his marks bro for the long con?
There are many types of confidence games, as you probably know. Some are “long cons” and some are “short cons.” The salesman that is giving you the rush-job is the short con. But, the long con requires you to build trust - which takes time and patience.

This is the Zodiac game. He was the best liar. His con worked and he got away - free and clear - He made fools of LE. And rubbed it in their face all the time.

He loved to tease his Secret Pal Apollo Averly. The murder of Paul Stine may have been his way of sending a chill up the editors spine. Killing Stine who was a not only another Paul but a budding journalist too.

4/7/2020 04:17:12 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdE93IiZ_SE

Rubislaw 32 - This guy Drew Beeson has done a lot of the research for his book.

Have you seen all his videos?

This one he talks about the candy cane ' f '.

If Don was not the Zodiac then he may have driven Allen to act-out.
Perhaps just BRS and/or Lake Herman Road.
No way Lake Berryessa. That guy had glasses and longer hair.
Don said he met ALA in 1962 - Oceanside

Some people are highly suggestible.
Tell them you think they can fly.
You drop a few hints.
Laugh at a few of their crap jokes.
And pretty soon they're jumping off a cliff.

4/7/2020 05:01:13 pm

Rubislaw 32

The Zodiac called it in before and just after his murder of CJB.
That is why the Riverside cops are saying they know it is the work of the Zodiac.
I realize that you don't care for Tom's attitude, but that aside, we have to work together.
Here he is doing a bit of a miaculpa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKLs37jPmp4

Rubislaw 32 link

4/7/2020 06:54:43 pm

I may be wrong on interpretation , BB , but I don' t get the impression that Riverside are claiming the Zodiac , as the murderer of Cheri Jo .

What I do believe is , that Riverside have accepted that they were wrong , all those years ago , to dismiss the related correspondences as being the work of the man who became the Zodiac .

The implication being that Riverside had ( understandable ) misgivings about having to accommodate the FBI on their territory , and did all they could to persuade the CA DOJ , to keep the '' Feds '' away , when there were unofficial indications that the correspondences , at least , connected to the previous '' presence '' of the Zodiac .

Had the Riverside P.D. been more accepting of the situation , the FBI's extensive expertise and resources may well have solved the murder of Cheri Jo , even if it had been committed by someone else .
And , of course , improve the chances of stopping the Zodiac in his tracks .

Rubislaw 32 link

4/7/2020 07:28:06 pm

With Cheney and Allen there could be a number of hypotheses put forward .

I can't speak for others , but I just feel comfortable that both Cheney and Allen were cleared by DNA , in the work undertaken by the FBI , in the service of the CA DOJ , at the behest of President George W Bush , 2002 / 2003 .

This work undertaken has never been revoked , and a few internet contributors that have sought to deflect from its importance and pour scorn upon it , with no credible justification , in the last two years , would do well to give their uninformed opinions a rest .

4/8/2020 10:32:30 am

Rubislaw 32 - I am sorry if I came across like a jerk to you - I just get so involved in saying what I want that I don't take into account that others might not feel like part of the conversation. I also forget about politics too. I should have said that Riverside Police have - at times - said it is the Zodiac. It seems the political game is in that back and forth. But, because the pre-Zodiac called it in before and after killing CJB is why the dominant RPD group at this time saying it is the Zodiac. And, they reason this is also because of the things that only the killer could have known.

The reason that this one was different from the others - is - it was botched - as he said some of them fought (back) it was horrible. He was not counting-on CJB putting-up such a fight. That's why he said he "had to kick her in the head to shut her-up". The autopsy shows that he actually stomped the back of her head. This is why she had the road rash on her face. In his confession he showed signs of shame that his plans were screwed-up. His confession letter is filled with rage - and the shame of underestimating his opponent CJB (She scratched him good!).The Riverside spot is a regretful part of this psycho's journey. He does not like remembering his Boo Boos.

Rubislaw 32 link

4/8/2020 11:29:45 am

It's all fine with me , BB , and it is your entitlement to express your opinions on the murder of Cheri Jo Bates murder - at Richard's pleasure , naturally .

In fact , your highlighting of the Cheney - Avery link is , in all probability , a valuable contribution to understanding an aspect of the history of the Zodiac case , and something important to the case , as a criminal entity....for it does seem that the Zodiac understood , if not always immediately , the '' trials and tribulations '' of his fellow Secret Pal , Paul Avery .

Indeed ,it can be a difficult call on the Cheri Jo Bates murder . I just think that the Riverside P.D. are concerned that history will judge them harshly , for appearing to be too '' provincial '' on what transpired to be a potentially pivotal murder case ( Cheri Jo's ) , in relation the most famous unsolved criminal case , since Jack the Ripper .

But Riverside P.D. aren't the only ones .Vallejo P.D. perhaps more so , with both the debacle of Grant's surveillance operation , and the illegal Husted Report . The SFPD have '' one good , one bad '' to their names , with their valuable work contributing to the San Jose P.D. 's arrest and conviction of Karl Werner . But sadly , the Toschi fan mail scandal , and its ramifications was a dark day ,in their history .

Yes , up to now , the Zodiac case is still officially unsolved after 50 or more years....so there aren't really any winners so far , apart from the Zodiac , himself .

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THE PHANTOM ZODIAC LETTER ON JULY 8TH 1974 [PART TWO]

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