THE MURDER OF DIANE GERRISH

3/17/2019

Diane Louise Gerrish (19)

Diane Louise Gerrish (19), a young and attractive cosmetologist, who resided at 1042 Peralta Avenue, Albany, was found beaten and strangled to death in the grounds of the San Francisco Presidio by three soldiers on Monday, August 30th 1965 at 7:30 am. The blonde, blue-eyed, North Berkeley Beauty College graduate had been strangled with a garrotte, fashioned from her own stockings and brassiere. It was determined she had been dead for approximately 8 hours, so was likely murdered during the late night hours of Sunday, August 29th. She was last seen on Friday night after having an argument with her family over the use of a car. Diane was found lying on the bed of an ice plant near Lincoln Boulevard, close to the southern entrance of the Golden Gate Bridge.

San Francisco Coroner, Henry Turkel, concluded the attack was sexually driven. Her skirt had been pulled up, her undergarments were removed and then her depraved attacker had subsequently mutilated her with the branch of a shrub. She had also been savagely beaten about the face and body, by what was believed to be the fists of her assailant. Investigators clearly understood they were looking for a sexual psychopath. The case was turned over to the FBI as the Presidio base came under federal jurisdiction.

Diane was a regular visitor to the Fort Scott Presidio Enlisted Men's Club, a log cabin on Presidio Hill.

Courtesy of Murder Inc Wordpress.com.

SAN FRANCISCO (UPI) FBI agents pressed their search today for a “sexual” psychopath" who strangled a young cosmetologist and dumped her body on a field of iceplant at the Presidio of San Francisco.

Agents said Diane Louise Gerrish, 19, of Albany, had been killed with a garrotte fashioned out of her stockings and brassiere and had been mutiliated sexually in an appalling manner. Her face was covered with blood and her skirt had been tossed carelessly over her body.

Miss Gerrish’s body was discovered by three Presidio soldiers Monday. They called MP’s who immediately turned the case over to the FBI since the military post is under federal judisdiction.

Miss Gerrish had been missing from her family home since last Friday after she stormed put of the house in an argument over use of the family car. She was a popular girl who had recently graduated from the North Berkeley Beauty College and was to have taken her operator’s examination in San Francisco today. The tall, blue-eyed girl was considered extremely attractive and was described as a "friendly, kind girl" who was "very good with children".

3/17/2019 12:10:25 pm

Richard - This
Diane Louise Gerrish
could be the Big One
This has all the hallmarks of The Zodiac
And, it was on D-day
I also noticed
Double letters
As in the other cases
Darlene Elizabeth Ferrin
Cecilia Ann Shepard
Betty Lou Jensen also killed was David Arthur Faraday - no double letters (was Betty the target?)
Paul Lee Stine found shot at Washington and Cherry (carried out like it was a editing job)
Kathleen Johns
Cheri Jo Bates - often spelled Cherri
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Cherri
Robby Domingos, His fiancee, Linda Edwards - no double letters (was Robert/Bobby the target?)
Donna Lass

This possibility is a theory that would mean the Zodiac stalked his victims. By first finding a double letter in their name.
Therefore if this was the case he was not a lone nut. Randomly killing with disorientation.
But, was acting out of pure deviance. Diabolically, designing his artistic murders with
a culmination or masterpiece of expression. Just like the Ripper's grand finally.
So violently he mutilated Mary Jane Kelly that her body was dismembered.
This is possibly what happened to Donna Lass in the Zodiac. With the cannibalism history
equating to the Donner Pass.

Richard

3/17/2019 12:44:23 pm

I thought I'd feature this crime because of Presidio Park, and the Zodiac Killer's apparent knowledge of this are. However, the sexual element of the crime is unlike anything we know of Zodiac.Admittedly, people can change in their methods of operation, but we need a lot more information than is currently available on the internet. But this young girl had to be alive somewhere for at least two days. It suggests to me, the likelihood of a male acquaintance and unhealthy obsession, that turned nasty. It is surprising though, that this murder has never been mentioned in Zodiac circles.

3/17/2019 05:44:05 pm

You are right it's really Walpurgisnacht Night (witches night) the night of 30 April (May Day's eve), when witches meet on the Brocken mountain and hold revels with the Devil...Young women should be kissed past midnight (and during the following day) under a cherry tree. [Many variants to the custom exist].
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_Night

If the FBI puts the time of death 11:30 pm we have an April 29th death while if time of death is 12:30 am it is April 30th.
But, if they are off by an hour in their calculations as they very well could be if they did not consider temperature changes through the early morning hours, and or the possibility of movement of the body. The two main factors to disrupt rigor.

http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/estimating-the-time-of-death.html

"Rigor normally occurs in the smaller muscles such as those in the face and neck and will work its way down through the body as the muscles become larger. The process normally begins roughly two hours after death and can last for anything from twenty to thirty hours."

The thing is Richard, you and I can argue till we are blue in the face. And it won't matter. The Zodiac probably was a show-off. And, the meaning of all this. As far as that is concerned, evolved for him over time, I'm sure. How much have you considered Anton Lavey or The Process Church's - Robert DeGrimston? Exactly six months later Bate's is killed. And, exactly six month after that The Church of Satan was established at the Black House in San Francisco, California, on Walpurgisnacht, April 30, 1966, by Anton Szandor LaVey, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Satan

The opposition to Lavey - the Christian fundamentalist Jerry Falwell claimed that Lavey renounced Satan - but that is just propaganda, he never did. Larry Flint took up the cause of freeing people mentally from Lavey in the public eye JF. vs. LF.
They went on a speaking tour that ended in the two becoming friends. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLAOzn9x9Go
Somebody hired a serial killer to assassinate Larry but when the killers shot did not kill him - Flint went out and hired a serial killer of his own to act as his body guard. "The Zodiac" http://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mentzer-william.htm

3/18/2019 01:40:09 pm

Anton Lavey's time of death was at question Oct.29 vs.Oct.30 born Howard Stanton Levey April 11, 1930 – October 29, 1997 Politics have crept in and muddle that date. And, probably because of fundamentalists wanting to control the narrative. To get the first and the last word on the matter. However the Church of Satan says he died Oct.30 While the papers read Halloween. To be factual though Oct.31 is exaggeration for sensationalism. His birth date is without question on Dali day though - the date of one's birth takes up as much of a person's obsessions as one's day of death.
Another date is Oct 30 - six months after the founding of The Church of Satan 1966. The date that Cheri Jo Bates was murdered. Hypothetically a commemoration sacrificial murder that following day was Halloween. Also that of the 14 year old Nikki Benedict, she was stabbed to death in Poway. They think was attacked between 6:15 p.m. and 6:30 p.m.on the first of May,1967. Exactly six months later.

Murder Inc link

3/18/2019 02:57:59 pm

How the hell did everyone miss this? Am I missing something here

3/18/2019 03:24:34 pm

Richard
It is exactly 8 months from the time Diane Louise Gerrish is murdered in 1965. To the Founding of the Church of Satan - April 30th depending on the exact hour of death. I think we will never know for certain whether it's Aug 29 or 30. https://www.calculator.net/date-calculator.html Since the time of death is an estimate and can vary by a couple of hours. However, since she was found at approximately 7:30 am with an estimation of death being 8 hours prior to that. Rituals are performed at exact times and it would be safe to assume that it was performed at midnight. If we are saying that she was a sacrificial rite of passage for the Zodiac - Making her his first slave for the afterlife. The circumstances say the body was dumped. Which means Gerrish was killed some where else - some where safe to the killer - and he was allowed in the Presidio. So he must have been military. If Diane was a regular visitor to the log cabin on Presidio Hill at the Fort Scott Presidio Enlisted Men's Club. That is where we should start. In fact - he must be an enlisted man and a regular to the Fort Scott Presidio Enlisted Men's Club. This was his haunt and this is where he came for his alibi after killing Stine.This was his safe place. The Zodiac having taken us full circle from his first kill (potentially for this line of thought) Aug 30 of Diane Gerrish in 1965 to Paul Stine Oct 11 1969 right back to the Presidio where exactly a year before Richard Bunch, a prisoner in the stockade, was killed on October 11, 1968.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidio_mutiny

Richard

3/18/2019 03:52:09 pm

That would be my first port of call - somebody acquainted with Diane Gerrish and somebody connected to the men's club and the military. If she was killed elsewhere and dumped at the location she was discovered, then it could be argued that the killer knew that she visited the men's club and deposited the body there to focus the investigation on the men's club, but wasn't in the military. Either way, bearing in mind we have two days unaccounted for, strongly suggests the killer was known to the victim in some capacity. I don't know the hours this club was open, but one would have thought Sunday was a likely day the club may have been open for entertainment. The problem with these newspaper articles, is they pretty much vanish as soon as they appear. One newspaper claimed she was murdered 8 hours prior to discovery, the other 10 hours. The most likely date would be extremely late on the 29th, probably close to 'kicking out time'.

Richard

3/18/2019 03:57:49 pm

Although I have long dismissed the 13 moon calendar idea, August 30th 1965 was a Dali day, on the first day of the week. Just thought I'd mention that.

3/18/2019 05:29:36 pm

8-10 hours form the time of discovery or from the arrival of the coroner?
Do you know Richard? Because, if not, somebody has got to find out.
The Time line is the most important thing you've got. It can often be the difference between yes or no. As far as your 13 month calendar discovery goes. Man has reinvented and recalculated it so many times I think there is one out there that fits. My contention is the George Eastman calendar. He is the only person represented by two stars in the Hollywood Walk of Fame for his invention of roll film. I just have no idea how to prove that that was the one the Zodiac used.

Richard

3/19/2019 12:48:29 am

It would be calculated from the actual time the coroner took the temperature - so 8-10 hours prior to 7:30 am.

3/18/2019 07:12:03 pm

Born in Demory, Tennessee 16 Aug 1949 killed in the Presidio 11 Oct 1968 Pvt. Richard James “Rusty” Bunch 19 years old.

It would seem one of his psychopathic friends "the Zodiac" got revenge for his death by murdering the cabbie 11 Oct 1969, on the one year anniversary of the killing of the mentally ill Rusty Bunch. Is this the reason why he was always taunting and trying to "stick-it-to-the-man" because he was abused and mistreated in the stockade? This is a real possibility.

Richard

3/19/2019 12:45:35 am

Any links to this?

3/19/2019 09:56:18 am

The Presidio 27 - protesters - along with thousands of other grunt's actions were the main reason for the wars end.

Their attorney, Sullivan won their case with the government and got the charges of mutiny dropped. But then the
Army charged them with different charges in essence the times they got for mutiny were 15-17 years. Even though Sullivan won the case. The government did not drop it - they just moved the goal posts - and railroaded the heroes (The Presidio 27) with 2 years in prison.

There are several videos on YouTube, here is one; Here's a look at San Francisco's Presidio Mutiny -- 50 years later

Most of the 150-160 men were in for petty crap - one puff of a joint would get you a mountain of charges (lies). If a guy got in a fight he would be looking at years in jail. This type of punishment is "over doing it". Also, these are mostly good guys just looking to shrug off some pent up energy. The jail was built to hold half that number and the men were not going to take anymore. Then when the cowardly act of shooting Rusty in the back occurred. The Presidio 27 sat down in protest and sang "we shall overcome". So the army charged them with Mutiny - again mountains out of mole hills.

In the end we found out through the pentagon papers that the war, was not a war - it was a crime. And, therefore the protesters were heroes. With Rusty kicking it off. No wonder we don't hear about this in our history books. There would be a day for Rusty...But the Zodiac desecrated that by murdering Paul Stine on the first anniversary.

Richard

3/19/2019 10:03:36 am

Thanks BB, I know what you mean now.

3/19/2019 02:10:47 pm

I haven't got a clue...

I have a million clues!

3/19/2019 05:21:06 pm

If the Army work detail discovered the body at 7:30 then it would take them some time to notify their superior officer. The Army officers would discuss what to do. Then, if they did call civilian officials first - that would have taken time, and then it would be some time before the coroner arrives. And, still more time until he takes the body's temperature. We would need to see the coroner's time of arrival but I have no problem saying that because the moving of a body can delay rigor as much as an hour that the time of death could theoretically have been midnight. At any rate considering all these factors it is my contention the body was dumped in situ around 2 am. And, because the killer would have wanted to steer suspicion else where - is why he would dump her somewhere other than near anything associated with officers. And, as far as the dumping of the body, or even the suspect doing all this without being seen - The Presidio has an extensive under ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOAhBQdWzmI&list=PLtP10qqTzKD-Ehv7ufWyTDmQ1wxhsnHH2&index=3

Agents said the body of Diane Louise Gerrish was found dumped by the enlisted mens club. However the officers lived on the other-side of Veterans Boulevard to the west at the Fort Winfield Scott housing area.
Each house had it's own access to the underground hallways. "The Zodiac" would have had to been an officer in the 6th Army to be housed there. But, was he still in the military at the time of the Stine murder?

Richard

3/21/2019 01:14:11 pm

Hey BB, somebody else was murdered and last seen at an Enlisted Men's Club connected to the military- this time at Mare Island. . According to the missing person's report filed last July by Mrs. Albright, Hoffman said her sister last had been seen on July 11 at the Enlisted Men's Club on Mare Island (additional information below). Hoffman said Mrs. Albright gave no reason reason for delaying the report of her sister's disappearance until July 15th. Hoffman said Deana Hooper and Tonna Albright had been adopted about eight years ago from an orphanage in Hong Kong by their foster father Dean Hooper, a Caucasian ex-serviceman who now lives at 234 Thomson Ave, Sonoma. Hoffman said he notified Hooper that the skeleton found here had been tentatively identified as his missing adopted daughter. According to Hoffman, Hooper confirmed he had suspected all along that Deana was dead, after she disappeared without a trace last July and that Mrs. Albright confirmation of the identifications of the skeleton came as no surprise to him.

https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/deana-hooper-near-the-golf-course

3/21/2019 02:23:34 pm

On the Halloween card - could the killer have buried Donna's skeleton under a pumpkin patch? This is a great idea Richard.
This is how this guy (the Zodiac) thinks. Well done! As, far as Deana's remains are concerned do you know if they found any tell tale signs on the skull perhaps. If you have a bullet hole in the back of the head for example, you could say she was murdered there. And the round was probably found in the ground under where the remains were found. Otherwise, you would have to conclude that the body was probably dumped there. Do we know how she was killed?

Also, on the Presidio underground map I noticed that there is an egress at the Julian Khan Park - Could this have been how the Zodiac made his escape on the night of Oct. 11, 1969?

sandy link

3/21/2019 02:55:04 pm

Thanks Richard for bringing up the murder of Deana Hooper July 1974. And telling us about Diane Garrish. There could be a connection. Deana's pant leg was found off of one leg, so Hoffman thought she may have been raped? Her killer could have made it look that way, or she could have been tortured like the Garrish girl was? My suspect who claims to be Zodiac, sent me a letter with a drawing giving me a clue to Deana Hooper's murder. That letter came about 10 yrs ago. I had no idea about her murder in 1974. Her body was found next to Saint "Johns" rd off of Columbus park way a short walk to Blue Rock Springs.
Oddly enough Darlene's ex Jim Phillips was put in the stockade at the Presidio, he was discharged in 1965.

Richard

3/21/2019 03:41:39 pm

BB asked if a bullet was recovered near the body of Deana Hooper. My understanding is there was not. I just found it extremely unusual that Deana Hooper (likely sexually molested) was found adjacent to Blue Rock Springs Park, have last been seen at the Enlisted Men's Club at Mare Island, while Diane Gerrish was found in an area Zodiac supposedly entered on October 11th 1969, extremely close to the Enlisted Men's Club in the park (a place she likely visited in the late Sunday hours). Both women MAY have last visited a miltary Men's Club a matter of hours before their murder. A serviceman whose career spanned at least 9 years, between the Mare Island and military base at the Presidio must be a possible avenue of investigation. Especially because of the military angle perceived of the Zodiac Killer and his knowledge and familiarity with these two areas.

3/21/2019 05:12:01 pm

Richard - the map on this video has the answer to how the Zodiac escaped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOAhBQdWzmI&list=PLtP10qqTzKD-Ehv7ufWyTDmQ1wxhsnHH2&index=3

The Presidio has an underground bunker complex that nobody seems to know about but the Julian Khan Playground egress should be investigated because the Zodiac may have used it to evade the cops on Oct.11, 1969. Having gone full circle from Aug. 30, 1965 Then he does a good deed (in his mind) getting revenge for the Presidio 27 by killing Stine on the one year anniversary of the murder of Rusty.

The find that Sandy makes about James Crabtree Phillips being in the Presidio stockade in 1965 is the link in the chain we have been waiting for.

Richard

3/21/2019 05:16:42 pm

Cheers BB, I'll take a gander in the morning.

Murder Inc link

3/25/2019 08:05:26 pm

hi sandy, do you know anything about darwin jenkins and the vallejo kidnapping in 1965 mentioned here? do you know old-timers in vallejo who might remember? or someone who can look in the vallejo newspaper archive at the library?
http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/VPD_55_-_Redacted.jpg

sandy link

3/21/2019 06:33:10 pm

There was not any obvious signs of how Deana was killed. She could have been killed elsewhere and her body put in the tall weeds in that particular area as a in your face type of thing Zodiac would do. They knew she was dragged to that spot. You mentioned Julius Kahn Playground. I have done a lot of work looking at that area for a hiding place for Zodiac. A safe place for him to watch everything that went on that night. I was lucky enough to go into a home that was in three levels. The bottom level was a apt. It has a huge window facing the Julius Kahn playground sign. Just the other night I saw a post at Zodiackillersite. It was about a couple in Vallejo who received a letter and two A's tickets. That was June 1970. A name that I had already looked at, because his house was the house that had a back door that lead to the park . It was one block east of Maple. We know Zodiac was last seen heading to that area. As it turns out his name was connected to Haas -Lilienthal House. No way am I saying this person was Zodiac, but he could have rented that apt to the killer without knowing he was Zodiac? Walter Haas was a co-chairman of the A's before becoming the president for 1990-92. Walter A Haas was chairman of the board of Levi Strauss. Did Zodiac send the A's tickets as a clue to where he was on Oct 11 1969? Those apts could be rented by the day, week, month. Two home on Maple were under construction 410 and 415. Peter E Haas lived at 313 Maple. Something to think about!

3/26/2019 08:43:52 am

what is the latest about DNA?

sandy link

3/26/2019 10:00:25 am

I was informed late last night by Tom V , that they have Zodiac's DNA. I am assuming that was told to Tom Voigt by VPD . VPD were the ones who sent in to a lab, two of the first letters that were sent by Zodiac. So that must be who told Tom about having Zodiac's DNA. Next step is putting it into GED match , It could be a long while before they get the zodiac's true name. This is very exciting news! I am worried that the announcement was made too soon and now Zodiac if alive ( And I believe he is) will destroy any evidence he has kept and he could leave the country. They should have done this the way Paul Holes did and wait until the perp was arrested.

3/21/2019 08:46:08 pm

Cops should have looked more seriously at Phillips. Cops blew their one interview of Phillips. Afterwards people learn. Never talk to cops. Not only can they use everything you say against you. They only do use it against you. They ain't gonna use what you say to do anything to help you out. Zodiac sends cops on a wild goose chase with correspondence full of bad leads and red herrings. Phillips lawyers-up. Cops can not talk to you if you say. "I'd like to speak to an Attorney." Smart people don't talk to cops. The Zodiac was smart. James Phillips was too. He'd been around the cell block a time or two. I think they might be one and the same person. Has he been DNA'd?
I wonder who was the attorney of Phillips? Did the two work together to divert the cops? You pay your lawyer to keep your secrets. And to keep you out of jail.

sandy link

3/22/2019 10:10:10 am

BB , I never heard that Jim got an attorney to stop asking him anything about the case. He is someone who thinks he is smarter than the police. He did answer their questions and he toyed with them. He knew after they went to talk to him the first time, that they would be coming back with a search warrant. So he made sure they would see something that would make their heads turn. That was the card that was returned to him , because of not enough postage from Blackwell's in England. He drew on that card giving the middle finger and the Zodiac logo. I will always believe that the Lake Berryessa case blew the investigation of shorter men like Jim. The cop from Vallejo who went to talk to Jim said in one report that as soon as he saw how short Jim was , he knew he couldn't be Zodiac. Lake B's killer was made out to be huge and I think it threw the case off. Jim was never looked at again and as far as I know they never asked for his DNA. I don't believe Jim was Zodiac, but I do believe he knew Zodiac. I also believe Zodiac knew Darlene very well. When they went to the Virgin Islands they were with a man they called Honcho. I feel Honcho was the man Darlene saw kill someone and that he is the Zodiac. When I asked Jim who Honcho was, he paused and said, oh that could have been Darlene's dog? Sounded like a cover up to me. Sorry but we are off the topic of Diane Gerrish's case.

3/22/2019 01:08:54 pm

Sandy
You are my friend so don't think for a minute that I am not. I'm just needing to debate this notion that we should let Phillips off the hook because he was only 5' 6" in height. You point out that a cop brought up that his size was a disqualifying factor. If the only thing holding back an investigation of Phillips is his size for not fitting the many Zodiac descriptions then we just have to reason that the Hood and the boots the Zodiac was said to be wearing - would have added about 3 to 5 inches to Jim which would have made him seem 5'9" to 5'11.Bryan Hartnell said 5'8'' - 5'10'' in height. And, now we see the reason for the disguise. As the costume was worn with some padding which would make him seem to be in the 200 lbs.range. We are told Phillips was 5' 6" which equals 66". Hence the possible Phillips 66 reference. Darlene would not rat out Jim - that is why she never named her unnamed stalker. But, her family spotted Jim parked behind a house the day of her funeral. Which makes me think they were the same person. People lie easy. But, they don't easily rat out other people. If left with that choice I think the answer is she lied by denial of naming Jim. If this cop from Vallejo who went to talk to Jim was more concerned with covering how he blew the investigation then that would explain the too short excuse with out requiring Jim to put on a Zodiac costume to see.
Again to disagree with me is OK. I have been mistaken a million times more than not.

sandy link

3/22/2019 02:40:13 pm

BB. You have every right to giving your opinion and I agree with a lot of what you believe. Jim's height has been in question, it was said he was 5ft 6 and 5ft 9 . I stood in front of him and I would guess him to be 5ft 8 or 9 and not 5ft 6. The person I was with that day was 5ft 6 and Jim was taller. You are correct in saying the hood added inches to the height of Zodiac that Sept day. I did see that hood and for sure it would add about 4 inches to the height. I also believe that I got away from Zodiac in Vallejo in 1968. He didn't look at all like Jim. However I also believe there were more than one Zodiac working in tandem.The Zodiac case was poorly investigated by more than one Det. in my opinion.The print that made Zodiac seem heavier than he really was, could have been a print when he got up from stabbing either victim and leaned to one side making that print deeper. Plus plaster of Paris is what was used back then, that alone could distort the size of the print and depending on how high they dropped it into the print could make it deeper. Plaster of Paris swells as it cures, then shrinks. I don't know about Jim's car being parked behind the funeral home. I do know he and his pregnant girlfriend were sitting in the back of that room that day. He lied about that and many other things. Careful what you post, he likes to sue people. He has had a Z site shut down because of accusations about him.

3/22/2019 03:29:52 pm

Do you think he would be willing to take a DNA test to clear his name? And, help us eliminate him as a person of interest once and for all?
If he did that he would be big deal here. And it would help in finding out who the real Zodiac killer was and of Diane Gerrish's case.

Sandy link

3/22/2019 07:28:50 pm

BB, He doesn't consider himself as a suspect , so I am pretty sure he would not give his DNA. He was cleared in 1969. If he was the Zodiac and was cleared he wouldn't do it then either, that would be foolish. We will be hearing about the DNA soon I hope and the case will be solved.
It is taking a long time for VPD to make an announcement, that is a sign that they may have a full DNA profile.

3/23/2019 10:08:34 am

What was the charge James Crabtree Phillips was in the Presidio stockade for in 1965?

Also in the Presidio in 1965 Diane Louise Gerrish, had been killed with her stockings and brassiere and had been mutiliated sexually. And her skirt had been tossed carelessly over her body. Was this also the state in which the body of Deana Hooper, also dumped. She had last been seen on July 11, 1974 at the Enlisted Men's Club on Mare Island? Dali - day AKA Doomsday. Didn't Phillips have a link to the Church of Satan?

Richard

3/23/2019 10:13:37 am

Deana Hooper was skeletonized.
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/deana-hooper-near-the-golf-course

sandy link

3/23/2019 10:22:59 am

BB, Not sure why Phillips was put in the stockade, I do know he went on a hunger strike while in there. Deana Hooper was just bones by the time she was found, so it would be hard to tell what was done to her. Hoffman assumed it was sexually motivated. we don't know that to be a fact or not? It was believed that Jim and Darlene went to the church of Satan. The address of one of the witches from that church Roze Herkirmer ( Not sure of the correct spelling?) , was in Darlene's address book. She told Howard Davis that she knew both Jim and Darlene. There was a black Satanic looking robe found in Darlene's closet after her murder. If I had to guess I would say yes they went to that church!

3/23/2019 02:45:00 pm

Sandy and Richard

LaVey was friends with a number of writers associated with "Weird Tales" magazine; a picture of him with George Haas ...appears in Blanche Barton's biography The Secret Life of a Satanist.

Could this Haas be related to those at 313 Maple?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_LaVey

Also Lavey was born on April 11, 1930 - Doomsday
( I'll bet The Church of Satan goes by the 13 month goddess calendar )
Does any body know how their calendar aligns with in the Gregorian calendar?
The only people to walk around with Zodiac buttons-on were Church of Satan followers.
Anton Lavey was a "genius" on anything with a keyboard - it got him work in bars, and nightclubs. He played in the Los Angeles area. Cheri Jo Bates was a piano player - and was murdered six month to the day from the founding of the Church of Satan April 30, 1966. The desk the janitor found was in the music room closet. Darlene said she saw the unnamed man kill somebody. Was the Phillips 66 map centered off Mt. Diablo directions for the Zodiac to go from? Was Cheri the sacrificial lamb? The bearded man never returned for the reenactment.
Jim Phillips wore a beard at times - and has the double L in his name. For the little list?

Apollo 8
bullet
Halloween
Vallejo Ca.
Yellow Cab. co
Call
Belli
Hell
Tell
all
alley
kill
billow
tit willow
untill
Phillips 66

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3/23/2019 04:33:25 pm

BB Not sure if George is related to Peter E Haas who lived at 313 Maple, but for sure Peter is a part of the Levi Strauss family, he was Vice Pres. of that company. I have a Zodiac button and never went to Anton's church. How do you know some of them wore Z buttons? Are you sure that Cheri Jo played piano , because I know for sure Cecelia S did. Where did you read that the desk was in the music room closet and not the library? I believe that Mt Diablo was a starting point for the direction to go from to find where the bomb was. I have been to the top of Mt Diablo many times and used a compass to see if I could see where Zodiac may have put the bomb? It took me past Clayton to the right , in the direction of where a bomb did go off two yrs to the month of the bomb letter. That was on Andrus Island , to the right of Rio Vista Ca. It flooded that whole area all the way to Stockton. June 1972 I believe? It made a hole 12 feet wide by 12 ft deep very close to where I worked at the Spindrift Marina. Could have been just another one of those crazy coincidences? As for Cheri Jo, I think who ever killed her had it in for her father and not her, perhaps from work at March Air Force base? ( Wing walkers?) I say this because of the cruel letter the killer sent to her farther. Again a possible military connection.

3/23/2019 06:30:57 pm

Trying to find the doc where they had this group of Lavey's marching down the street singing and proudly wearing the buttons but here is a good place to look for the music room reference that I should have written down somewhere - but sorry, I have not found it yet.
http://thisthestoryofthezodiackillerspeaking.blogspot.com/2017/11/cheri-jo-bates.html

3/24/2019 11:08:39 am

capricorn writes about the music room here

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=18&p=27616&hilit=desk+found+music+room+desk#p27616

Just to let you know that I no making it up - It's out there - sorry I just can't find the specific place I read about the exact stuff.
Remember the first words are always distortions, mistakes and lies.
The truth comes out slow and through much work, and difficulty. It is very good though - to be like you and question everything.

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3/26/2019 11:22:38 am

BB thank for the link.What capricorn said was "If" the desk was found in the music room. Sounds more like a guess than a fact to me. From what I remember it was found in a storage room off of the library. The workmen all had keys to that room.

4/12/2019 12:23:30 pm

Hey Sandy - I found a good place that refers to the music room and some other stuff.

viewpointsonline.org/2007/03/09/nov-5-1996-on-30th-anniversary-rcc-murder-still-unsolvedbr/

The experts also said that a bizarre poem found on the underside of a desk in the music room in 1968 was written by the “Zodiac.”

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4/12/2019 05:47:37 pm

Thanks BB, I had no idea that the note on the underside of the desk wasn't seen for two years? For some reason I thought it was a couple of months. Although I thought I read it took about two years to get all of the construction done. It must have been found when they were putting all of the desks back in the library.

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