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RICHARD GRINELL, COVENTRY, ENGLAND
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THE ADDITION OF ONE FULL STOP

10/27/2018

 
I have recently read Zodiac researcher Mike Rodelli's new book 'The Hunt for Zodiac: The Inconceivable Double Life of a Notorious Serial Killer'. In it he tackles the payphone call from the Springs and Tuolumne intersection to the Vallejo Police Department in the early morning of July 5th 1969. He takes the widely perceived directions given by the killer to identify the location of St John's Mine Road along Columbus Parkway, from which investigators would be led 'one mile east' to the location of the crime scene. The Zodiac Killer chose this location because he was creating radian angles using the payphone as a vertex to St John's Mine Road and the Lake Herman Road murder site.

This theory relies entirely on the transcription of the message given by Zodiac being written and recorded correctly, despite the fact that police dispatcher Nancy Slover and the Zodiac Killer were talking over each other for part of the message. The police report clearly stated "Writer received call from male subject who did not identify himself. Substance of statement was as follows". The 'substance of statement' reference, indicates that this is not necessarily a verbatim transcription of the spoken message, just the overall substance of the call. The above theory also relies on these locations being predetermined to create the necessary radian angles, and supposes that the killer already had 'radians' in his mind one year in advance of his letter proclaiming the use of such a term. The killer has once again been elevated to a master criminal, creating a labyrinth of puzzles from the terrain of northern California. This is the truth - or there is a much simpler and far more mundane answer.
The idea that the Zodiac Killer was just a ruthless killer scouring the Bay Area for victims using 'hit and miss' tactics, isn't half as appealing as the Moriarty style puzzle merchant he has metamorphosed into in recent years.
What is the likelihood that a killer calling the Vallejo Police Department from a payphone near the police station, was directing the police to the crime scene from their location, rather than creating an elaborate puzzle from a predetermined position along Columbus Parkway to manufacture radian angles? This is for you to decide. 

Thomas Horan, author of 'The Great Zodiac Killer Hoax of 1969', admits that the Nancy Slover police report statement of the message is not a verbatim transcription, but goes on to say "Blue Rock Springs is not one mile east of Vallejo Police Department." Despite this, he then uses the transcription to identify a fire station one mile west of the crime scene in his following hypothesis. Both theories rely on the wording and context of the message having been recorded exactly as it was spoken by the killer. The crime scene is neither 'one mile east' of the fire station or St John's Mine Road. A significant portion of the journey would be traveling closer to south than east. At best (as the crow flies), southeast would be the more accurate determination.  
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Zodiac researcher Gian Quasar also tackled this problem on his website 'The Quester Files'.  He stated "The Zodiac does not know the name of the park. Nor was he in a state to notice the sign. Feigning ignorance would buy him nothing. Not knowing the name or just pretending he didn’t know the name would not indicate he was a stranger. Under normal circumstances a stranger would have noticed the park sign. When he calls the police, he actually gives them directions. But even in these he is quite wrong. He is really not aware of directions and distances.
Blue Rock Springs was neither 1 mile east of where he called, nor a mile east of the junction of Springs Road and Columbus Parkway. It is north of Springs Road by about 1 mile and 3 miles away from where he had called. Instead of simply saying the name of the park, which would tell all and sundry the location, The Zodiac gives instructions and doesn’t really have a grasp on distance and direction. He didn’t stalk his ground much at all. Nor was he in a state to notice the sign. 
He could not have been a Vallejoan."

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This statement makes the assumption that Nancy Slover recalled and recorded the spoken message of Zodiac 100% correct, while just assuming that Zodiac was incorrect with his payphone message. It doesn't consider the possibility that Zodiac was 100% correct and Nancy Slover recalled and recorded the message incorrectly. This same bias was not applied to either party at Presidio Heights, regarding the incorrect negro male adult description given to responding personnel. We will show later that the message by Zodiac was in all likelihood correct - and Nancy Slover also got the wording of the message correct, but with one crucial mistake. Reading into the message and claiming Zodiac was feigning ignorance by only mentioning the word 'park' is a stretch, and again the same argument could be applied to "
The S.F. Police could have caught me last night if they had searched the park properly". Using the word 'park' is not proof of Zodiac knowing the area or not. 
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Here is a newspaper article statement regarding the murder of Cheri Jo Bates in Riverside on October 30th 1966.
A Mexican-American student who noticed Cheri Jo Bates close to opening time, stated "he knew Cheri Jo Bates and had noticed her in the library the night in question. He said he saw the girl "writing something with a ball point pen in her blue spiral school notebook." The boy told us he was outside about 5:30 pm, waiting for the library to open at 6:00 pm, and it was then he saw the girl". This statement is confusing, as it can be read in two different ways - did he see Cheri at 5:30 pm or 6:00 pm. 

Let us consider the three teenagers at the corner of Washington and Cherry Streets, and assume they had a direct hotline to Officer Armond Pelissetti one mile west on Washington Street. They are viewing Zodiac heading up Cherry Street, so they call Officer Pelissetti and state "If you go one mile east, on Cherry Street you will see Zodiac." In the second instance they call Officer Pelissetti and state "If you go one mile east on Cherry Street you will see Zodiac." Both statements are composed of the same words, but mean two different things entirely. The only difference is intonation or the use of a slight pause or break, making the first statement correct, while the other giving the impression of directional unawareness. 

Applied to the Blue Rock Springs call, we go from "If you will go one mile east on Columbus Parkway to the public park, you will find the kids in a brown car" to "If you will go one mile east. On Columbus Parkway to the public park, you will find the kids in a brown car." The wording hasn't changed, but the meaning of the payphone call has changed entirely. The Zodiac Killer is instructing police to head east to Columbus Parkway, from where they will find the stricken couple at the public park. All this is achieved by a simple full stop. Why would he be directing Vallejo police from a point on Columbus Parkway, when he is ringing the police station near to the payphone?  Police traveling from the station along Solano Avenue to Springs Road, would then have to travel 1.34 miles east before reaching Columbus Parkway, on which they would head north towards the crime scene. Do you want this boring answer, or do you want something far more exciting? The choice is yours. 
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Drew
10/27/2018 10:06:03 am

I like your take on this Richard. These other accounts don't seem to have a reasonable rationale for what the Zodiac was trying to achieve with the call.

I like a lot of Quasar's work, his writing really inspired me early on to learn about the case, but it seems illogical that the purpose of ringing the police after the shooting was to suggest that he was not from the area. Clearly he knew the area, he just committed his second crime there.

Rodelli too has taught me a great deal about the case and he seems like an honest and thorough researcher, but the highbrow theory about the killer's passion for radians is too hard to swallow. I assume Zodiac knew the small town police station did not have a system to record incoming calls, if only because he did not try this calling business in San Francisco. If he was the master criminal with the elaborate and precise plan involving radians and inches he left the coherency of his masterpiece in the recollection of a random telephone operator. That doesn't add up to me.

Horan tends to express his Zodiac views rather arrogantly but he did inspire me years ago to read the reports more closely, I will definitely grant him that. I think I recall him speculating that the BRS call was just a crank call or somehow unrelated to the crime, but that seems like a lazy dodge to me that hardly deserves a rebuttal.

It seems obvious that Zodiac was simply giving the police directions to the crime scene and letting them know that it was related to the earlier Lake Herman shooting. Zodiac may not have been the genius some believe he was; I surely use to think along those lines; but he was clearly clever in many respects and I think any functioning adult would know that the directions had to extend from the police station. The act itself of course furthers the implication that he knew the area, an affect he must have been well aware of. After all who would offer directions without considering first where the directed will be traveling from? Zodiac may turn out to have been an out of towner but he certainly knew the area and made the call to ensure that he would be credited with the crime.

Richard
10/27/2018 10:38:18 am

I too have much respect for Mike Rodelli and Gian Quasar, both of whom have many great insights into the Zodiac case. This article certainly wasn't meant as a slight, only a disagreement that [1] Zodiac got the message incorrect and [2] That the payphone message had an ulterior or hidden meaning. He was simply directing the nearby police and the transcription missed out a full stop, thereby changing the message. Mike said he welcomed discussion on his book and wanted some feedback. I have now done four pieces on things related to his forum posts and books, with some added links. I have actually read the book cover to cover twice now and thoroughly enjoyed it. It is full of good quality material, even if I don't buy the Kjell Qvale angle and some of theories such as the one above. But none of us can agree all the time. As long as we can have constructive discussions and criticisms, then that shouldn't be taken as a bad thing. Not everybody will agree with Mike, and the same goes for you and I Drew. I wanted to elaborate on his theory a little more, but I didn't want to take too much information from the book under 'fair use' and allow people to discover his material by purchasing the book. I would love to cover more of his book, pro and con, but I shall leave it there for now. The only reason I countered people's arguments on this one, is the decades held assumption that Zodiac spoke the message incorrectly, rather than ever considering the possibility his spoken message was misinterpreted or recorded incorrectly. It's not like the police haven't made mistakes elsewhere in the case. I disagree with Mike and Gian on this one, but hey, some people disagree with me. However, it doesn't change my overall opinion on the quality and professionalism of both guys.

Tom1
10/30/2018 04:01:44 pm

I have often thought that the behavior of the letter writer, and the phrasing used is the clew to his identity. Not the ciphers themselves. Does that make sense? Mike R based a lot of his research on profiling,which contributed greatly to his conclusions, right or wrong. For that he deserves some credit. The problem is that the forensic evidence linking the crimes eliminates all the known POIs.

Carl Krash link
10/27/2018 10:09:58 am

Very nice, very neatly done Richard. Sometimes the most mundane explanations can be full of a wider significance. Your explanation not only solves the little puzzle but clearly shows the killer knew the area exceedingly well. Bravo!

Richard
10/27/2018 10:45:23 am

It was that much of a boring article Carl, I almost fell asleep writing it. I much prefer the theory angles myself, even if I half don't believe them when I read them back. If the Zodiac was discovered tomorrow and was found to live in Napa, I'd look like a right bloody idiot, and would have to go underground for 6 months at least.

Carl Krash link
10/27/2018 11:13:19 am

I’m sure Cali folks would point out it’s possible to live in Napa and know Vallejo quite well. Your piece is wonderful. It puts a stop to all the endless conjecture about this phone call. Excellent use of maps and text. I’m sure Einstein fell asleep a time or two at his in the patent office.

Rubislaw 32 link
10/27/2018 02:00:32 pm

Magnificent,Richard.

You have spurred me on,once again,to act irresponsibly.

Irony of ironies.....it was grammatical syntax that finally caught the Zodiac.

At a time,yet to be determined.

Yes....the plain and simple ''comma',for whose use,the Zodiac gave away the game.That suddenly,and out of the blue,he could speak passable French.

I will leave that truism,with your readers,while I prepare to rat on the VPD,to the Sacramento Bee.Residents of the Bay Area,deserve the truth,after all these years.

But who knows [?].The newspapers like everything ''instant'' these days.Didn't anyone tell M.Voigt,when he complained that they had misrepresented his views....that the photograph of a naked woman,would normally be a favoured option,to fill in ''column inches'' [?].

Indeed,its often the way that we are interpreted.And as you have illustrated,happened with the ''full stop'',in the particular instance,that you refer.

But Zodiac's luck finally ran out.And this time,with a comma.

It was bound to happen,eventually.

[.....cue brickbats.....]

Rubislaw 32 link
10/27/2018 07:22:38 pm

One should not be deflected,by the comments I make,and stick ''to script''.Try to uncover as much about the Zodiac,as you are able.

His actual name,matters not a jot.

What matters is,why he did what he did,and how this fitted in,with a short period,in the history of San Francisco.

A city,that just happened to have become,at that time,the centre of the world,for arts and culture.

And,to an extent,despite the Zodiac's work obligations,he had angled himself,to be there,to experience,'' The Happening''.

An extra shame then,that he should disgrace himself,by treating the people of this place of beauty,in such an appalling manner.

But,there were big problems in his ''very'' personal life,that just wouldn't go away,and somehow it spilt over,into an engagement of mass terror,which made him feel better.

Those personal problems,represent core motive of the Zodiac.

When everyone eventually hears about those problems,then I think that they will understand.But it will be difficult to forgive.

An extraordinarily selfish young man,who decided to turn into a monster.

Judith
10/27/2018 08:07:10 pm

The directions to Blue Rock Springs are as if you are driving on Highway 80

Nobody
10/28/2018 07:38:54 pm

Yes Judith, that is my take on it to. We can get ourselves tripped up on the trivialities of semantics.

It makes perfect sense to me that he simply meant: "If you go about one mile east of the highway, then on Columbus Parkway go to the public park where you will find the two kids in the car."

He was just talking fast, wanting to get away in a hurry, abbreviating. All easily explainable.

I see no evidence at all that this proves he either knew Vallejo extremely well or not. Perhaps it simply shows that he could read a road map well enough to give some basic directions.

As for the theory proposed by some that he devised precise killing locations according to plotted radians, I simply do not buy it.

Tom1
10/28/2018 07:11:38 am

He was obviously providing directions for the police to the crime scene. It is human nature to be bored with simple explanations of events because they lack sex appeal. Conspiracy theories and all kinds of bizarre scenarios are created to fill this need for drama. The most realistic explanations are just to mundane for most folks.

Nobody
10/28/2018 07:12:33 pm

Well said Tom!

Rubislaw 32 link
10/28/2018 11:45:12 am

I see your comment,Tom 1,as as good an explanation,as any offered.

I believe that Zodiac may have had any expectation,that his actions might cause another ''flashing lights and sirens'' diversion,for himself.

Which didn't actually materialise......but,its a guess on ''all things considered'' intention.

I note the employment of ''intended diversion'' in further murders,not officially thought to be the work of Zodiac.So,one can't be sure,but the act of ''diversion'' could have become part of Zodiac's mindset,when carrying out an attack.

When Zodiac pulls a stunt,such as the one we are discussing,we have nothing similar having happened,to compare.

I certainly go with that part of Vallejo,for where Zodiac resided - south-west part.I note the proximity of Benica Road,which fits in with my thoughts on his work commuting habits,also.

Nobody
10/28/2018 07:10:13 pm

A little grain of truth mixed with a generous helping of subterfuge. Yep, that sounds like Zodiac!

Judith
10/31/2018 07:02:05 am

Happy Halloween. I understand they have submitted DNA from the Nancy Bennallack (sp) murder to the GEDmatch website recently.

Nobody
11/1/2018 11:41:50 pm

Other things too are in the pipeline. We should all "stay tuned". ;-)

Rubislaw 32 link
10/31/2018 08:30:25 am

Thanks in part,for your good wishes,Judith.

That's an interesting piece of news.

Nancy Bennallack,murdered in her own flat,October 1970,Sacramento.

Judith Hakari,murdered ''probably'' March 1970,Sacramento.Body found about 6 weeks later,discarded in a remote woodland area,used by hikers.

These two are seen as Zodiac ''possibles''.

In most of these ''periphery'' murders to the Zodiac case,the local forces tended to be very protective about the crimes,and in denial of a Zodiac involvement.Same for the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker murders.

And of course,the Bates murder,an outstanding example.

It really does seem,in part,a fear of FBI involvement,at the time.

There is little doubt,that Hoover had drawn up a ''death list'' for Black Power leaders,at the time.With,what we now know as COINTELPRO,the ''tool'' of execution.

It just spread fear among law abiding citizens,and ''regular'' police forces wanted no discernible association.

Perhaps,a bigger problem,than we realise now,for the CA DOJ's introduction of the FBI into the Zodiac case,July 1969 onward [?].

Lori F
10/31/2018 10:26:39 am

Very interesting article and replies Richard et al. I have no right commenting as I am so new to the case and have been so unplugged for months my knowledge compared to the rest of you is negligible. However in my practice and experience as an attorney I have most often found that occam's razor applies.

I do have one unrelated question Richard. I may have asked you this previously and if so my apologies. When I first began on this Zodiac fascination over a year ago,(comma), my 80 year old mom told me not to comment as she believed I would be communicating with the Zodiac. I believed and believe though that he is likely dead and has been for many years.

However it would be interesting to know Richard if you can track the traffic to your site, other than to those who post comments?

Also, although I fear that law enforcement does not actually have the Zodiac's DNA, I am anxiously awaiting any DNA info so please everyone keep commenting. I am reading!!

Richard
10/31/2018 11:41:31 am

Yes Lori, I can track your approximate location (town), web browser and IP address. However, I don't use any of the information for nefarious means, or reveal any of the information to other visitors of the site. And, I'm certainly not the Zodiac Killer. If I were, then all my articles would be designed to lead you away from the killer, which hopefully you can see is not the case. Having been born in Coventry, England in 1962, it would have been a rather difficult feat to achieve.
Rest assured Lori, your Mom need not worry.

Lori F
11/1/2018 08:19:50 am

Thank you Richard and BB. I am not suggesting that you share any identifying info with us Richard and appreciate your respect for privacy. My thought is that if Zodiac is or was still alive when you created the site he may have visited. Have you ever had any suspicions about any visitors to the site?

And I would be thrilled if you were the Zodiac Richard but I believe that unfortunately you are not a fit!

Nobody
11/1/2018 11:40:30 pm

Richard is a true gentleman Lori. You need not be concerned. There have been trolls come on these pages from time to time pretending to be the Zodiac. I am sure their comments are quickly weeded out. If the Zodiac is still alive, my guess is he would have to be getting on in years. This is great forum for discussing everything Zodiac. There are occasional disagreements and outright spats at times, but Richard soon puts them to bed. One thing to possibly consider is take no notice of anything you read from anybody on here, most of all me, and you will be okay. ;-)
P.S. I call myself Nobody, because my comments are, like the internet, entirely fleeting; and also not generally all that important in any case. Much of the discussion about this case involves details and trivialities - little things possibly overlooked in the past - which can in fact pose larger questions both interesting and challenging. Cheers.

BB not Big Brother but for blue belly and when I'm in a mood, just - blue
10/31/2018 03:51:47 pm

Lori F

You first popped in with me a year ago with the History Channel show.

You asked where to start and I said Darlene Ferrin - I was wrong.

Richard corrected things saying the canonical 4 should be connected.

Here is what links them - Department of Justice, Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation, conducted by David Burd, the firearm identified as the likely murder weapon at Lake Herman Road was a J C Higgins 80 pistol - made by The Sears, Roebuck & Company whom manufactured their own paper targets. Which is obviously where the Zodiac got his scope signature. The two notions, sign and .22 cal Pistol are seen together at this link of Richard's here;

https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/sears-roebuck-co-paper-targets#comments

Now you know why Richard's canonical 4 is where to start. It is the datum you were looking for. It is where the 4 points of the compass cross.

BB
11/1/2018 11:36:32 am

Lori F
Cut and paste this into your URL if you want an old target as a conversation piece or just to put up in your den. This datum is what the Zodiac spent many days looking at, and shot many times. It has both the Zodiac sign and the name JC Higgins on it. Proving he used the model 80 pistol to kill a teen couple on Lake Herman Road 50 years ago next month.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-J-C-Higgins-Sighter-Chart-Target-4-Sold-By-Sears-Roebuck-Co/183509247896?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3D99a9f4eb1461417085b817df8a275dfe%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D372345334219%26itm%3D183509247896&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

Lori F
11/1/2018 12:23:53 pm

Thanks BB!

Nobody
11/1/2018 11:30:00 pm

There may have been other symbols he was referencing too, but the gun sight and target is of course the most logical and plausible influence. I cannot understand why he would want to paint a target on himself at Lake Berryessa. As Judith suggested earlier, it seems to make more sense that the symbol was intended to represent a gun sight. Or he was wearing it as some kind of "badge of honor". He was, afterall, the one behind the gun and pulling the trigger. He was not the target. But these are all minor trivialities really. It is all interesting, and one day if the Zodiac is brought to justice we may be able to ask him.

BB
11/2/2018 09:58:19 am

The Cross Hair symbol for the Zodiac represents that moment when he lines-up his scope cross sign with the target cross sign. There are three crosses. Two physical and one symbolic. The symbol is what he is trying to terrorize with.

Sully link
10/31/2018 10:34:40 am

Hey Rubi -
How did LE rule out GSK in regards to the Hakari/Bennaleck Sacramento murders ? Wasnt he working as a cop in 1970 ?

Rubislaw 32 link
10/31/2018 12:34:07 pm

Hi Sully.

Of course I wouldn't know the definitive answer to that question.

But an interesting rumination to be had,nevertheless.

These ''periphery'' murders to the Zodiac case,probably did have nothing to do with the Zodiac case,but I would suggest that ''scope'' and ''ease of contact'' in investigations,was thwarted,to an extent,with the introduction of the FBI,to the case,albeit primarily Bay Area.

A mist of distrust,appears to have descended,among the ''natives'' [?].

And,naturally,the GSK couldn't have been responsible,either,for ''everything'' unsolved,at the time.

I try to ''telegraph'' a few possibilities,at another site,by ''reportage'' of what I see happening,in investigations,elsewhere.But I'm not a ''fly on the wall''.

This,can sometimes be,like a pantomime enacted :

''Hey....he's behind you !''.

What I will say,and as I have pointed out to a few folk,that live on the East Coast,as well as the West Coast,is :

''Did you ever think about,pointing your binoculars,across the Atlantic ocean ?.There have been jet airliners,for many years,and people have freely worked abroad.''.

Nice to see an Attorney,among us....and welcome Lori F.

Sully link
11/2/2018 01:31:44 pm

GSKs a good example of LE absolutely DRUNK with newly attained power over its citizens.

Judy Hakari (hospital RN) fits the Z profile well or probably even better. Nancy Bennaleck not so much.

Rubislaw 32 link
10/31/2018 01:22:45 pm

Just as an example,of what I'm suggesting,with regard to historical context :

Mae Brussell,who gave social commentary,from a perhaps ''conspiracy theorist's'' perspective,in the 1970's,pretty well had Charles Gains sussed,as one of Hoover's right hand men,''planted'' in an advantageous position.

Gains was Toschi's boss.So,while Toschi was busily trying to solve the Stine murder,and gain a greater understanding of the Zodiac,he would have to ''tip his cap'' to a man,who was more focused on crushing civil rights,and destroying Black Panther recruitment.

Now,Toschi was a detective,after all,and wouldn't have been ''wet behind the ears'' on a bigger picture,in the background,to his ''task in hand''.

Toschi,was largely controlled and directed,from above,and just had to make the best of it,in plying his trade,as a criminal catcher.


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