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1/13/2017

 
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Some of the most hotly covered topics in the Zodiac Killer case are the events subsequent to the murder of Paul Stine on October 11th 1969 in the wealthy district of Presidio Heights. On this occasion however, an alternative order of events will be explored in the run up to the murder, as Paul Stine's taxicab traveled along Washington Street. There is an extremely interesting article on the Howard Davis website 'The Zodiac/Manson Connection' regarding the autopsy findings of Paul Stine. Here is a small excerpt;
 
​"The last issue I wish to discuss was a finding in the coroner's report that I cannot yet resolve. Mr. Stine's lungs were described as follows: "Both lungs are moderately increased in weight. There is congestion at the base and dependant portions. Multiple intraparenchymal hemorrhages are noted." The blood in the lungs does not appear to have drained from the head wound. Were this the case the blood should be in the lung air space rather than the parenchyma (which is the lung tissue itself.) Additionally, the position of Stine's body (with the head approximately at the level of the chest while in Zodiac's lap and then below the level of the chest, on the floorboard after Zodiac left the scene) would not be conducive to passive blood flow from the head wound into the air space of he lungs".  http://www.zodiackillerthemansonconnection

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Intraparenchymal injuries are noted frequently in automobile crashes, where traumatic brain and chest injury occur as a result of the vehicle being brought to a sudden and immediate stop. "Lung parenchymal injury: Pulmonary contusion is caused by rapid deceleration against a steering wheel, fall from a height and from blast injuries". See here. The phenomenon of chest injury, such as parenchyma damage, without rib breakage or fractures is widely covered with a cursory internet search. If this anomaly in Paul Stine's lungs is not as a result of natural causes, which as Howard Davis states "is unlikely," then we have to consider injury caused by an external force. Has the narrative of the Paul Stine murder become so firmly entrenched, that it is inevitable the proposal of an alternative hypothesis will be widely disregarded? Was it really as straight forward as 'Paul Stine pulls up at Washington and Cherry and is shot', or is there another possibility incorporating these autopsy findings?

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We have a trip sheet supposedly marking the destination as Washington and Maple, but a taxicab sitting at Washington and Cherry. The autopsy report indicates there are intraparenchymal hemorrhages in both lungs and dark marks on the dorsal side of Paul Stine's left hand. Donald Fouke described a man with a semi-limp and a shuffling lope traveling east along Jackson Street, backtracking to the original destination noted on the taxicab trip sheet. Do all these combined suggest something went awry prior to the actual shooting? If the taxicab had experienced rapid deceleration, then it would not be uncommon to sustain chest injuries from impacting the steering wheel or from a seat belt injury, with the rear passenger catapulted forward, striking their hips or lower legs against the back of the front seats, thereby explaining the observations of Donald Fouke.

There had been a spate of taxicab robberies in the run up to the Paul Stine shooting and the murder of taxicab drivers was not uncommon. The wanted poster issued on October 13th 1969 was testimony to this fact - and no doubt Paul Stine was fully aware of the risks his profession entailed. If the taxicab was still in motion when the gun was presented, the actions of Paul Stine would be instinctual - he can comply or react. If he slammed on his brakes fully, he may have felt he could disable the assailant, as the passenger would be unprepared for the rapid deceleration, albeit he would still strike the steering wheel. Had this occurred, then clearly it ultimately failed, as the assailant regained control. In the absence of any skid marks just prior to the intersection of Washington and Cherry, it may indicate that this occurred at Washington and Maple or even earlier in the journey. Whether we believe the routinely told story of Presidio Heights on October 11th 1969, that the murder occurred adjacent to 3898 Washington Street, it still cannot rule out what could have proceeded it. Had Paul Stine valiantly attempted to disarm the assailant precedent to his murder - an attempt that would ultimately fail, but indelibly left its mark at autopsy and left the Zodiac Killer shuffling down Jackson Street.  


Greg H.
1/14/2017 12:56:40 am

Richard--Is it possible the wounds to Stine's lungs occurred by virtue of the gunshot blow which may have violently jerked his body forward and into the steering wheel?

Richard
1/14/2017 01:04:57 am

I watched that video of a taxicab driver being shot on Youtube and his movement was negligible. The impact of a small bullet as often portrayed in Hollywood is never how it really happens. Also Stine was shot from the side not the rear. Caution; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SIMvdbM0aQ

Greg H.
1/14/2017 11:40:59 pm

^ I see your point. That was a sad thing to view.

Alex Lewis
1/25/2017 07:26:25 pm

The Human Head is actually a vacume and so introducing a projectile to the head causes, for want of a better term, a depression of sorts. Add that to the size of a 9mm bullet and the speed at which it is travelling and its too small and travelling too fast to thrown the body forward by its own forces.

Injury is far more likely to occur to the body of victim in the instant after the bullet is introduced to victims cranium by way of what Homicide Detectives refer to as 'The Death Grip' which is a common symptom seen with victims who expire after being shot in the head. Its a phenomena where as the bullet tears through Parts of the Brain that controls the muscles and limbs, the victims body spasams and muscles lock or contort into a rigid, tensed up state

Joe Kenda was speaking of this Death Grip on an episode of Homicide Hunter where a male sat stationary in A truck in a Bar's parking lot waiting for His Girlfriend to come out was ambushed and shot in the side of His Head. Kenda asked a score of patrons why they came outside and led them to discover the male with Kenda stating He thought they would all say they rushed outside after hearing a shot fired. He was taken aback when not one witness said they headed a shot fired but their attention was drawn outside after a roaring engine reved up, screeching tyres and then a loud crash or impact sound. As they csmr outside, a truck had crashed head on into a.guard rail and the tyres were spinning and starting to smoke along with the truck engine roaring at its limit.

As soon as Kenda looked in the drivers door and observed an entrance wound above the drivers ear He.knew instantly that this man wasn't trying to escape a gunman, He was in the throws of the Death Grip.

Alex Lewis
1/25/2017 08:01:06 pm

If this automatic body tensing into a rigid involuntary spasm was something that Zodiac either was aware of therefore did not expect, I imagine He Himself was caught off guard and would Himself react on impulse.

The teens observed Z wiping the Dash area of the cabs front interior. Obviously, the assumption therefore would have to be He's doing so to remove His Possible latent fingerprints.

Now I can't speak for others, but I have taken quite a few Taxis over My 34 years and despite My travelling up front in at least half of the rides, I can't recall ever once having cause or reason to touch the dash. A, no legit or logical reason why I would do so and B, I'm quote confident that the driver would wonder WTF was going on if I got in, said Hello and gave Him my destination then placed both my arms out in front of me, hands pressed against dash. . . "Driver.. .. LETS DO THIS!!"

He'd likely just sit staring at me with eyebrow raised lol. No but the point is, nonetheless, serious in that its either a struggle with Paul causing Z to use.the dash to steady Himself, or He was bracing for imminent inpact .

Richard
1/26/2017 04:07:05 am

Welcome back Welsh, I thought you had abandoned the Zodiac scene. Did you need a well deserved break to recharge your batteries.
Yes, a bullet has huge penetrative ability, but little in the way of momentum to shift the mass of a human body.
"Newton's Third Law of Motion, cribbed here from Wikipedia, states: "When a first body exerts a force F1 on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force F2 = −F1 on the first body. This means that F1 and F2 are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction." You can see a practical demonstration of this with one of those Newton's Cradle desk toys. Swing one of the steel balls outward and let it fall to hit the rest, and one of the balls on the opposite end moves. Swing two balls, and two on the opposite end move.

If a bullet had enough force behind it to hurl someone through the air when they were hit, a similar force would act on the person holding the gun that fired the bullet. This clearly doesn't happen, even when the bullets in question are big with a large powder charge behind them, like a .50 caliber or a rifled slug from a shotgun." Tim Dees. https://www.quora.com/Does-shooting-someone-really-cause-them-to-fly-backwards
Or forwards for that matter. Sent of another FBI request Welsh for a document just prior to the '8 year old sighting' document you obtained.

Alex Lewis
1/28/2017 03:01:23 pm

Thank you for the Greeting on My return and the answer to your question did I need a break from Z forums or the Z in general....

Yeah, but not really via My conscious choice, but more of a unwillingness to simply go back over what has already been done, rehash a thing or things that have been done to death (no pun intended). I have searched the letters to the point I can reprint them off hand, looked at the suspects and their 'For' & 'Against' arguments. I don't have the best attention span or patients, I get bored easily.

If a Detective is investigating a case and has pursued all leads and evidence without sussess then they will declare their case has stalled, and a break needed to kickstart their investigation. I just feel Rich We are kicking a dead Horse at present.

Alex Lewis
1/28/2017 03:21:55 pm

I mean, put it this way, I Myself am personally in no doubt whatsoever that Certain People know more than they are willing to say. I am talking specifically about The Presidio Event and Murder of Stine. Police don't just allow individuals spotted yards from a homicide scene within 3-5 minutes of it occurring to simply walk away and leave the scene without at a minimum taking down Names and address regardless of whether they match given description of suspect.

Recently, Xenophon Anthony and His potential to be responsible for Stine's death has become stronger and stronger in My mind for several reasons, not least of which is, a witness Identified Him as the possible subject responsible for Cab Driver Homicide.

There's also the little fact that after Xen is Named as possibly being Z, the Z murders abruptly stop. If I were a serial bank robber for example, and on my last job a witness had given police my name as the individual they though robbed them, then I too would cease holding up banks for fear the Flying Squad had me under survailance.


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