S.L.A LETTER NOT ZODIAC - AND HERE IS THE FBI FILE TO PROVE IT

1/14/2019

S.L.A letter

The S.L.A letter supposedly received at the San Francisco Chronicle from the Zodiac Killer on February 14th 1974, was actually mailed on or slightly before February 3rd 1974 from Los Angeles County, one day before the kidnapping of Patricia Campbell Hearst. The whole letter was geared towards the word "kill", revealing the meaning behind the Asian characters on the Exorcist letter, whitewashed from the January 31st 1974 newspaper article in the San Francisco Chronicle. In a previous article entitled 'The Symbionese Liberation Army and the Zodiac Killer', an S.L.A member was considered as the possible author of the February 3rd 1974 S.L.A letter because of the "Old Norse" reference. Sara Jane Olson (born Kathleen Ann Soliah on January 16, 1947) was a member of the Symbionese Liberation Army in the 1970s. She grew up in Palmdale, California, the daughter of Norwegian-American parents.

The S.L.A letter was postmarked "U.S. Postal Service, CA 913 PM 3 FEB 1974" - the letter began with the word "Dear" and signed off with the rather tame "a friend". Zodiac researchers, understandably don't want to believe the letter was mailed on February 3rd 1974, because they have a vested interest going back decades, including printed material based on a 'Zodiac Killer' responding to the kidnapping of Patricia Campbell Hearst on or around February 14th 1974, despite the fact nothing in the S.L.A letter refers to the kidnapping. So, just for arguments sake, let us assume the Zodiac Killer mailed the letter on February 14th 1974, signing off the letter with "a friend".

On February 10th 1974, just 4 days prior to the S.L.A letter, a typewritten letter in a white envelope was mailed to the Hearst family, postmarked "U.S. Postal Service, CA 940 PM 10 FEB 1974", bearing the typewritten address "R.A Hearst Family, 233 W. Santa Inez Ave, Hillsborough, Cal, 94010??". It read [corrected for spelling] :

Dear Hearst Family, I am white, and I am sorry I joined the people who have your daughter. I saw her Wednesday and she was alright. She is brave and beautiful and innocent. Don't let her marry that Weed man. He talked to our brass last month and said how to set it up. He said if he marries her, he must have enough money to hold up his head. He got his idea from Miss Angela Davis, who gives orders and ideas to our brass. I am so ashamed to belong I am trying to get out easy, but God help me if they find out I write this. They are animals, but I don't think they will hurt her. God bless you, and God forgive me.

A friend

For those still believing the S.L.A letter was mailed by the Zodiac Killer on February 14th 1974 - here we have a Symbionese Liberation Army member mailing a typewritten letter to the Hearst family on February 10th 1974, four days prior, beginning the letter with "Dear" and signing off with "A friend". Then, a matter of days later, the Zodiac Killer has returned after a near 3-year hiatus and just happens to accidentally mimic the Hearst letter (which wasn't published), beginning the letter with "Dear" and signing off with "a friend", while writing about the Symbionese Liberation Army. Even the die-hard proponents of a February 14th 1974 mailing cannot believe this to be the case.

The 'Hearst Family' letter may have been authored by Sara Jane Olson (born Kathleen Ann Soliah), who could also be responsible for the S.L.A letter mailed from Los Angeles (913) just a week earlier, on February 3rd 1974. The "Old Norse" element of the letter drawn from her Norwegian-American ancestry. Both communications began with "Dear" and ended with "a friend".

The 'Hearst Family' typewritten letter and envelope can be seen below, postmarked February 10th 1974, accompanied by a notation of "For FBI or Family" [corrected].

THE S.L.A LETTER - FEBRUARY 3RD 1974

57 Comments

Rubislaw 32 link

1/14/2019 05:27:29 am

Am really fascinated by the typed letter,from ''/S/A Friend'',Richard.

A ''crafty'' tactic,perhaps,to mention ''Angela Davis'' - a strong,resolute and respected figure in matters of ''Black Power''.And,of course,a woman...giving extra ''street cred.'',at that time.

Its almost,as if,there are two ways of looking at this whole ''1974'' topic [?].

Either,all four letters,as claimed by the authorities,are authentic Zodiac....plus ''extras'',like this ''/S/A friend''.

Or,none of them are...and the Zodiac never put in a figurative appearance,of any sort,in 1974.Just perhaps,a mirage of the FBI's making,for purposes unclear.

I know you are falling into the latter camp,and understand some of your reservations.

How coincidental,perhaps,with Kevin Fagan's recent release of the ''2001 New Years Card''.A message from an ''unconfirmed'' Zodiac which,nevertheless starts :

'' Mr.Editor ''.....just as,in the '' SLA Letter ''.

Maybe Mr.Fagan is a fan of your site,and playfully decided to annoy you [?].

[....joking.naturally...]

Richard

1/14/2019 05:57:05 am

Yes Rubislaw, I have been trawling through the stockpiles of S.L.A communications in the FBI files. There is enough here to last a year. They bombarded the Chronicle, Examiner, radio stations with written and recorded communications, including your "1978 scotch tape" to record the messages. They constantly referred to themselves as the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army, and referred many, many times to their subjects as "citizens". Above is only one example. So I don't find it unusual the Badlands letter signed off with "a citizen". The amount of correspondence they mailed in and around February 1974, leaves me in no doubt they signed off the S.L.A letter. I am 99.9% certain they wrote the S.L.A letter, Badlands card and Red Phantom letter, and fairly sure of the Exorcist letter, although I still have reservations about that one. The Zodiac just reappearing after three years and then vanishing just as quickly has always animated the public into believing Zodiac was still around. I don't think that is likely anymore, and more likely the S.L.A, who were prevalent in 1974 just pulling off a bad joke. The "a friend" appearing on a presumed 'Zodiac' letter just days apart from a Symbionese Liberation Army typed letter with exactly the same sign off, is too much of a coincidence to now reasonably assume Zodiac returned and accidentally signed off with the same signature, abandoning his usual menacing introduction and crosshairs. The author of the Exorcist letter, S.L.A letter and Badlands card also had a habit of using quotation marks, something the Zodiac Killer (as far as I'm aware) didn't do. For me Rubislaw, I am still looking into the Exorcist letter as "remotely possible", but the others I give no credence to anymore, and will eventually rebrand them on my inner pages as fraudulent Zodiac correspondence. Some will disagree with my conclusions, of which I welcome. We all have different opinions that should be heard. Fire away!

Shawn

1/14/2019 11:32:22 am

Very odd the Zodiac would drop his name from communications starting in 1974.

The return of a "This is the Zodiac Speaking" letter would be much more newsworthy than random sign offs as found in the 1974 letters.

If this is the case, Zodiac last confirmed letter was in 1971. (if 1974 letters are bogus)

Whatever happened to the Zodiac after March of 1971?

Richard

1/14/2019 12:19:57 pm

Assuming the Exorcist letter is lumped in with the other three 74 letters, the last letter I think may be Zodiac is the July 13th 1971 communication. What happened to him after that is anyone's guess. He got jailed for another murder and died in prison, he just died or he simply stopped killing and writing. The Exorcist letter is the crucial communication - after all, it's the only one in 1974 that looks genuine and carries the tone and menace of his earlier correspondence. Other than the Asian character connection, which I cannot prove, why the S.L.A would imitate this correspondence, I couldn't say. There is, however, nothing to show any of the 74 letters (particularly the last three) were ever attempting to impersonate Zodiac. The final three 74 letters contained nothing to suggest the author was attempting to pass them off as Zodiac. No intro, no victim total, no crosshairs, no direct threats, no double postage and no attempt at imitation of the 69, 70 and 71 communications.

Rubislaw 32 link

1/14/2019 05:46:02 am

...perhaps someone should kidnap Mr.Fagan,and not release him,until he agrees to reveal the precise signature of the scribe of the ''2001 New Years Card''.

He has,so far,assured us that it is ''Zodiac''.But this state of affairs is outrageous[?].

Plus,the ''open ended'' and unqualified ''...likely to be a hoax.''.

If it was '' Zodiac - A friend '',it could put a different slant on things [?].

Somebody ''call the cops'',and have Mr.Fagan arrested....immediately.

Richard

1/14/2019 06:05:04 am

I contacted Mr Fagan about the Monticello card, but unfortunately he couldn't help. I am about to write to James Kilgore, former S.L.A member and now author, to ask him if he knows anything about the latter 3 communications in 1974. He may not have knowledge of which Symbionese Liberation Army communications were sent by whom and when, because there were so many, but it's worth a try.

Rubislaw 32 link

1/14/2019 06:54:27 am

Without meaning to ''name drop'',I am ''familiar'' with Mr.Fagan,and we are on ''first name'' terms.

But,I know that I would just get annoyed,and start insulting him,if I did e-mail him.I best wait to see if there is any further outcome,over the ''New Years Card''.

So,great to hear that you are making some efforts,Richard.

Judith

1/14/2019 11:21:41 am

Please post a link to the letter sent to Fagan
Zodiac sent the Exorcist letter in my opinion.
Excellent work as always Richard.

Richard

1/14/2019 12:24:06 pm

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=4150

1/14/2019 01:10:45 pm

Gareth Penn's 60th Birthday

Judith

1/14/2019 11:23:43 am

The SLA didn't need to front as the Zodiac Killer. They were the SLA.
Death to the fascist insects.

Rubislaw 32 link

1/14/2019 12:18:17 pm

Just on a point of observation,on the Zodiac's ''presentation'',Richard.

If we examine a letter,such as the one to Melvin Belli.....then,it would not be considered an inaccuracy,to say that : ''Zodiac was probably genuinely upset,but he still made a concerted effort,on neatness and tidiness,in his presentation....more than likely,out of respect for Belli.''

In comparison,if we examine the ''Badlands'' letter,we observe a seemingly ''carefree'' Zodiac,with no self respect,to presentation of that letter.As if,perhaps,it was a provisional letter,which he intended to write out again neatly.....but then,couldn't be bothered...and sent it,in its ''scruffy'' state,anyway.

It's the diversity in standards of ''presentation'',that I find myself questioning....as much as any possible change in content ''mood''.

Yes,beyond the Exorcist letter,in 1974,the following three,do seem enigmatic [?].Not least,because he returns [....as claimed...],with the Count Marco letter....that is close to a ''work of Art''.

Shawn

1/14/2019 01:26:22 pm

"the last letter I think may be Zodiac is the July 13th 1971 communication."

Do you know if the March 1971 "Tahoe Card" had already been
published in the Newspapers by July 13th?

If so, then it could have been a ripoff of the Zodiac? Tahoe card by someone.

Richard

1/14/2019 01:38:35 pm

The Pines card was published on March 26th 1971 in the Chronicle

1/14/2019 03:14:53 pm

Richard - Looking through a list of all the 111 different names for the various types of pine trees for the name of the Zodiac perhaps his name is here:

1. Sikang
2. Haungshan
3. Khasi
4. Tenasserim
5. Lucha
6. Masson's
7. Sumatran
8. Red
9. Scot's
10.Cuban
11. Slash
12. extinct Foisyi
13.Spruce
14.Gregg's
15.Lawson
16.Herrera
17.Bishop
18.Lumholtz's
19.Patula
20.Pringle's
21.Jack
22.Cooper
23.Coulter
24.Hartweg
25.Torrey
26.Jeffery
27.Parry
28.Johann
29.Nelson's
30.White
The remaining pine tree common names are like European black pine or mountain pine so I don't think they would make good names.But, if we are instructed to peek through the pines by The Pines card here is the complete list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pinus_species

Phillips66

1/14/2019 01:59:14 pm

Fantastic work!

But, why couldn't Zodiac have been a member of the SLA? Weren't there a lot of members who's names we don't know? Might be the sort of group that would attract him...

Richard

1/14/2019 02:13:26 pm

I have considered that Phillips66. After maybe ceasing in 1971, he may have become affiliated with the S.L.A in some capacity, effectively beginning a new chapter in his life. Still looking into that possibility.

Richard

1/14/2019 03:35:59 pm

Wendy Masako Yoshimura (born January 17, 1943) is an American still life watercolor painter better known for her involvement with the Symbionese Liberation Army. She was born in a World War II-era California internment camp, and raised in Japan and California's Central Valley. She encountered and became involved in radical politics during her last year of art college as a result of meeting Willie Brandt, founder of the Revolutionary Army in Berkeley, California.
Japanese influence for Exorcist symbols ? A stretch I know.

1/14/2019 05:04:23 pm

Jack Scott was an SLA associate. He rented a farmhouse in Pennsylvania. And, he participated in the transportation of SLA members to different parts of the US, including his farmhouse. His reason for sheltering them was for writing a book on them. Scott was the sports editor for the radical magazine, Ramparts. - Which was a glossy illustrated American political and literary magazine, published from 1962 to 1975 and closely associated with the New Left political movement. From Wikipedia

Both the name Scot and Jack are common names for types of pines.

Jack Scott got his PhD in education at Berkeley and was married to Micki Scott.

Rubislaw 32 link

1/15/2019 04:55:06 am

Interesting information on the SLA,BB.

I think that with what Richard has highlighted,and its possible implications,it is helpful,at the very least,to become more versed in these organisations,and their ''tentacles''.

We can get too locked in to the ''Bay Area'' perspective....with a bit of Sacramento and Los Angeles,''thrown in'' [?].

As ever,more research can always benefit.

Richard

1/15/2019 06:32:34 am

SOME IMPORTANT CORRECTIONS TO THE ARTICLE ABOVE, AFTER FINDING ORIGINAL TYPEWRITTEN LETTER.

Richard

1/15/2019 06:52:51 am

THE HEARST COMMUNICATION WAS ONLY SIGNED "A FRIEND".

Shawn

1/15/2019 07:16:16 am

"THE HEARST COMMUNICATION WAS ONLY SIGNED "A FRIEND"."

It would be an amazing coincidence if it was a coincidence.

Really difficult to put it in the coincidence bucket.

I wonder how often letters were signed off "A Friend" during that era.

It appears someone in the SLA wrote what has always been considered a borderline Zodiac letter.

Great Digging!

You Might want to post your findings at the Two Major Zodiac message boards.

Richard

1/15/2019 08:20:49 am

Cannot find one other letter or card signed "a friend" before or after, so this appears specific to February 10th 1974, one week after the S.L.A letter. If you want to post it on any message board you can Shawn.

Shawn

1/23/2019 08:12:42 am

It should be noted (if not already so) that the Hearst corporation did not buy the SF Chronicle until the year 2000.

The Hearst family owned the SF Examiner since the late 1800's until the year 2000.

There was a JOA from 1965 to the year 2000.

Rubislaw 32 link

1/15/2019 07:53:07 am

Thanks for putting,the presumed original typed letter,and envelope.

What an exciting spot !

Some of us need time,for intake of breath,and consider.

If Mr.Fagan could just give us the signature,and something of a real explanation,for the 2001 New Years Card,it wouldn't be such a distraction [?]....to the full implications,of what you are uncovering.

Rubislaw 32 link

1/15/2019 08:32:13 am

.....'' Mr.Editor '' for the SLA letter....and '' Mr.Editor '' for the ''2001 New Years Card''

''A friend'' for the SLA letter...and ''A friend'' for the Hearst Family letter.

My next port of call,research wise,is surprisingly,''Mr.Ed'',the horse.

Just to be sure,of covering all bases.

I wonder if Mr.Fagan is in hiding ?

Rubislaw 32 link

1/15/2019 09:39:11 am

I think it was worth looking up,the US TV series ''Mr Ed'',a light-hearted comedy about a talking horse,that ran successfully,between 1961 and 1966.

It has always struck me that the ''E'' of ''Mr.Editor'' was unusual,and yet familiar.It seems that it had been made ''decorative'',to resemble a horseshoe.

In addition,the horseshoe in Occultism,is precisely as the letter ''Omega'',and the featured new symbol,in the Zodiac's Z32 Bomb cipher.

''Mr.Editor'',then,possibly with a nod at ''Mr.Ed'',the horse....with a horseshoe,naturally expressing ''Good Luck''.

Richard

1/15/2019 10:14:22 am

Take a look at this Rubislaw and note the "E".

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/download/file.php?id=2416

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=1977

Rubislaw 32 link

1/15/2019 01:03:22 pm

Thanks Richard,I managed to access with the second reference.

''Early Days'' ,granted,but I think,initially that you were right about suspecting that the Zodiac,posted his SLA letter,the day before Patty Hearst was kidnapped.

He had probably been following the ''fortunes'' of the SLA,through editorials,after the murder of the school superintendent.

And then,then the SLA are splashed across the newspapers,with the Hearst kidnapping.

So,Zodiac is determined to ''muscle in'' on the story,with the letter to the Hearst family,a week later.

Could explain why,the authorities didn't want the first SLA letter published....''they'' were weighing up all hoaxes,anyway,in the days following Patty's abduction [?].

So,on first impressions,Richard,you have uncovered Zodiac's ''follow up'',to the Hearst family.There may have been more correspondences,like the ''Russel and Little'' one [?].A different angle,on that one [?],from a contrived ''half wit'' 's perspective.

Well done...it's amazing that,we are probably seeing a Zodiac letter [...the typed ''A friend'' to the Hearst family...],for the first time.

A portal to the past.

Richard

1/15/2019 02:02:15 pm

I actually don't think Zodiac was responsible for the S.L.A, Badlands or Red Phantom communications. The Exorcist letter probably not, but am not certain on this. When we consider the 3 FEB postmark, it will undoubtedly come under dispute by many not prepared to accept anything other than a February 14th mailing, especially if it is a central focus in any chapters of a book. To not believe two FBI files stating FEB 3, one has to believe the FBI just plucked that date out of thin air to deliberately deceive people who had no access to FBI files in 1974. Then we would have to conclude they were stupid enough to manufacture the 913 zip code, which Zodiac had never previously mailed a correspondence from, rather than use 940 or 941 signifying San Francisco. None of this I believe they did or are. The postmark mentioned in the FBI files read 913 FEB 3, but I am sure people will twist, turn, circumnavigate the facts and pull up trees to discredit the FBI files to keep their narrative on track. People with the most to lose will never believe that Zodiac didn't write the S.L.A letter - a letter that contains nothing about him and his ego, and nothing about the kidnapping that he is supposedly writing about. Wouldn't it be amazing if the Symbionese Liberation Army, one day before the Feb 4th Hearst kidnapping, wrote a letter on Feb 3rd about the Symbionese Liberation Army, and wrote "a friend" on it - then only 7 days later another Symbionese Liberation Army letter to the Hearst family arrived with "a friend" on it, just like their Feb 3rd mailing, but the first Symbionese Liberation Army letter just happened to be Zodiac, writing about somebody other than himself for a change and failing to mention the Patty Hearst kidnapping that he was supposed to be writing about. A Symbionese Liberation Army letter on Feb 3rd would obviously omit any mention of the impending kidnap, which it did. I understand the 'criminal romanticism' in wishing everything was Zodiac, but for me Rubislaw the S.L.A letter is a dead duck from a Zodiac perspective.

Tahoe27

2/3/2019 08:42:08 pm

@Richard

"I actually don't think Zodiac was responsible for the S.L.A, Badlands or Red Phantom communications".

Ditto from me.

Interesting thing...the Badlands letter was written on a small card...like the Pines card..of which I think is also a fake. I wonder if Dr. Adam's patient was a member of the SLA. ;) Just throwin' that out there.

My Name Is Mine

2/4/2019 04:22:21 pm

And yet, the Badlands card is written in Zodiac's hand. The SLA letter is also Zodiac. He used his "persona's style" on the envelope but reverted to his more typical scrawly style of handwriting in the message. This is one of the few times he left his guard down. I believe the acronym is what is important in this message, not the concept of SLA. He was merely using SLA as an example because they were also popular due to their own notoriety at the time. Why not ride the waves of others to get your point across, when opportunity permits? People always do handwriting comparison based on the "persona style" which has been deliberately faked by the writer. They should be looking for matches with the SLA message. That scrawly, spidery style is, in my opinion, his actual handwriting style.

1/15/2019 11:20:13 am

Jack Scott--the radical author and sports guru who in 1974 helped kidnapped heiress Patty Hearst and other Symbionese Liberation Army members elude one of the largest police searches in history--died Sunday of cancer in Eugene, Ore. He was 57.

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/feb/08/local/me-62147

Jack Scott was the best friend the SLA ever had.

"It's very sad for him and his family," said Stuart Hanlon, a former Olson attorney. "He wanted his truth to come out, and it's sad for him that it won't."

Former SLA leader William Harris credits Scott with saving his life during the intense manhunt. He said he last spoke with Scott on Friday. "Jack knew he was dying," Harris said. "He wasn't afraid of it."

Rubislaw 32 link

1/15/2019 04:39:45 pm

I take in your interpretation,to date,Richard.

On initial inspection,of the Hearst Family letter,it seems ''priceless'' Zodiac,to me.Right or wrong,it appears to have a lot going for it,including elements of the Bates Confession letter.

From a personal perspective,angles on 1974 don't change a whole of the complete story,really.Apart from looking at the likelihood of more genuine correspondences,coming from Zodiac,beyond this time....and now,tantalisingly,into the 21st Century.

In essence,that the Zodiac could not cure his addiction to writing,and perhaps,left some geographic and timeline markers,in his wake.

Today,I put his propensity for corresponding at will,up by as much as 50% more than previously thought.

Rubislaw 32 link

1/15/2019 05:14:25 pm

On a matter of information details,with respect to the Hearst Family letter.....it looks more than likely that,it was mailed,about 350 yds from San Francisco Airport's terminal building.

820 Stanton Road [...as opposed to ''street''....],with zip code and PO numbers,tying up nicely.

Could be that the scribe ''flew in'',for this specially prepared letter [?].

1/15/2019 06:10:43 pm

THE SLA IS THE CIA
by Mae Brussell

http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Why%20Was%20Hearst%20Kidnapped%201.html

June 21, 1972, John Dean asked L. Patrick Gray who was in charge of handling the Watergate investigation. Answer: Charles Bates –- the same official in charge of handling the SLA.

https://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19740515-02.2.3&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------

Rubislaw 32 link

1/16/2019 04:52:33 am

Interesting,again,BB.

I have certainly noticed how,you have been given ''stick'' in the past,for what others might call ''conspiracy theory''....when it is not ''conspiracy theory'',but simply digging,to uncover aspects that....may or may not hold pertinence.

Keep up the ''digging''.

Perhaps those that are have concluded that,there is no Zodiac DNA,nor ever is likely to be....might care to note,that :

It was Robert Mueller,then Director of the FBI,who oversaw,and signed for...the clearing of up to 250 Zodiac suspects,in 2002/2003,including ALA and Mr.X.

The same ''Robert Mueller'' who has been attempting to uncover the precise reason why Mr.Trump fired James Comey,then Director of the FBI.

For all the ''speculative'' talk about Mr.Trump's involvement with Russian financing,and Mrs.Clinton's e-mail behaviour....here's another one,to consider [?].

How about James Comey and the ''Puppet Master'' 's meeting on December 19th 2014,to discuss ''matters'',including the Pan-Am Lockerbie bombing [?].

How is it that,the ''Puppet Master'' just happened to avail himself of Joan Webster's case file,shortly afterwards....clearly with Essex County DA,Jonathan Blodgett's approval.

A ''Policeman'',James Comey,intervening on behalf of a senior Advocate,the ''Puppet Master''...and involving himself with a District Attorney,Jonathan Blodgett.....at the excusion of the United States Department of Justice [?].

Protocol that would normally be considered ''unthinkable''.

So,is it any wonder that,when the CA DOJ finally found out about this,bearing in mind the ''Joan Webster'' is an ''outlier'' Zodiac victim....that the CA DOJ went ''ballistic'' [?].

And,that the US DOJ had to report this behaviour,by a ''policeman'',James Comey,to the President.

So...you just never know...the ramifications of matters related to the case of the Zodiac.

1/16/2019 03:04:50 pm

Rubislaw 32

You might get something out of this.

Perversion of Justice
by J. Brown

Is this the sort of corruption that's got things knotted up in the Zodiac case? Or are all these dead ends, and rabbit holes the kind of thing the CIA does to send detectives out on a wild goose chase?

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/4/perversion_of_justice_the_shocking_story

Rubislaw 32 link

1/16/2019 04:58:52 pm

What does the public actually know about the firing of James Comey ?

Mr.Trump has stated that,he decided to fire Mr.Comey,after recieving complaints about Comey,from the US DOJ.

Mr.Trump's only real comments were,that he thought that Comey was doing a ''lousy'' job,and that ''we'',the public,would thank him,Mr.Trump,in the future.

The circumstances of Mr.Comey's firing,was the following :

Mr.Comey was in the middle of delivering a speech to Los Angeles businessmen when,on a widescreen TV behind Comey,flashed news of Mr.Comey's firing.

The audience of businessmen all gasped....and Mr.Comey turned around,to see ''Comey fired by Trump'' flashed on screen.

Mr.Comey,believing the statement to be a hoax,continued with his speech,to a now restless audience.

Deliberate timing,from Mr.Trump ?

You be the judge.

Shawn

1/15/2019 07:26:24 pm

"None of this I believe they did or are. The postmark mentioned in the FBI files read 913 FEB 3, but I am sure people will twist, turn, circumnavigate the facts and pull up trees to discredit the FBI files to keep their narrative on track."

The image of the SLA envelope at Tom's website which reportedly had the SLA letter in it has no hint of a postmark on it.

http://zodiackiller.com/SLAEnvelope.html

Richard

1/15/2019 11:18:35 pm

This is a multi-generational copy.

Richard

1/15/2019 11:22:32 pm

My question Shawn - why would the FBI just make up "U.S. Postal Service, CA 913 PM 3 FEB 1974".

Rubislaw 32 link

1/16/2019 04:38:46 pm

I will have a look,BB,and thanks.

I don't believe that there is very often,a perversion of justice,for ''common crime''....as in ''non-politically linked''.

It should apply to the case of the Zodiac,that it is subject to ''common law''.

Where I have reservations is that firstly,with a ''failed'' case,there is a tendency for a cover-up,on mistakes that could be interpreted,at a later date....as having been made.

And secondly,a tendency for a long ongoing case,that represents failure....to be set aside,for periods of time....as almost being given up,on....waiting for something to spark it into life again.

Neither scenarios are acceptable,nor should be accepted by the public.

The trouble is,that ''LE'' ensure that we,the public,are never informed enough,to be in a position to judge those [...LE...],who are supposed to be serving our best interests.

Shawn

1/16/2019 05:35:14 am

"My question Shawn - why would the FBI just make up "U.S. Postal Service, CA 913 PM 3 FEB 1974"."

One unlikely explanation is that the local authorities submitted the incorrect envelope to the FBI for analysis.

The FBI stated there is copy of QC64, the envelope. Is there a picture of the Zodiac? SLA envelope in the FBI files?

The path of least resistance says your research is well thought out.

Richard

1/16/2019 06:06:06 am

The version on Tom's site was snipped off this sheet from the FBI. Even the writing on the S.L.A letter has become distorted.

https://www.zodiacciphers.com/uploads/4/9/7/1/4971630/published/1_40.gif?1547647432

Shawn

1/16/2019 06:28:45 am

I am not saying the SLA envelope is not postmarked.

BUT even the worst copies (multi-generational?) of Zodiac Letter envelopes I've seen show some remnant of a postmark (other than prepaid postage cards)

Tom1

1/16/2019 07:12:37 am

Are there two typewritten letters? One mentions Angela Davis, also there is a lenghty statement labeled Communique #4. Were they in the same envelope. As a side note I worked at SFO at that time and the AMF(AirportMailFacility) had a public Post Office with a street entrance and the rear of the building processed inbound and outbound airmail handled by various airlines, with no access to the public. Interesting bit of trivia.

Richard

1/16/2019 07:30:28 am

They are two separate communications Tom. The Hearst Family typed letter is.February 10th. Th communique #3 is February 4th. The communique added to show one example of their use of the word citizen or citizens.

Judith

1/16/2019 07:18:43 am

Wow. Shot gun. This is all over the place.
I visualized Peter sitting in his armchair with the loaded handgun shoved down in the cushions, as he often did, with his legs crossed, smoking a cigarette and chuckling Softly.
It's a rainy Wednesday morning here in Northern California.

Tom1

1/16/2019 02:45:45 pm

I made a typo when referring to Communique #3, which was actually delivered to a radio station in the bay area. Station personnel relayed the notice of the message to the Hearst family, who then drove to the station to receive the contents in person. Sorry for that, but the article confused me, which is not hard to do. I am an oulde and was living in the bay area during the counter culture revolution and the activities of the SLA. This is quite a refresher course for me of those times.

My Name Is Mine

2/3/2019 02:29:15 pm

Ummm, regardless of the incorrect date given on Wikipedia, I have never thought this letter had anything whatsoever to do with the Hearst family to be brutally honest. SLA were in the news for a quite some time. Their crimes were reported as early as November, 1973 when SLA killed school superintendent Marcus Foster. The communication may not have been written by the Zodiac, but one thing is for certain, the SLA letter that some have attributed to Zodiac DOES NOT mention the name Hearst! I personally fail to see any connection at all between the Zodiac killer and Hearst.

Mike Rodelli

5/17/2019 09:53:08 am

See the SLA letter thread on zodiackilller.com for new info.

Richard

5/17/2019 10:20:45 am

That isn't new information Mike, I've seen those files before. They are just lists compiled after the fact. Whoever compiled them took the information from here incorrectly
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/uploads/4/9/7/1/4971630/2d_orig.gif

They just misinterpreted the "received" and incorrectly stated this as "postmarked". The initial files (first generated) both state February 3rd 1974 (as shown on my S.L.A page. The person who produced these lists simply made a mistake.

Richard

5/17/2019 10:29:08 am

The bottom list you posted on the forum is doubly incorrect. It has the Badlands postcard as May 6th 1974. That is why I went to the source FBI files. The first chronological files give S.L.A as Feb 3rd. It makes total sense, when you consider the Hearst kidnapping the next day.

Richard

5/17/2019 10:31:18 am

In fact, both lists say May 6th, so I wouldn't pay much attention to these.

Sigmund

5/17/2019 05:15:17 pm

Um, I thought the SLA evidence was no longer important to the case against KQ?

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S.L.A LETTER NOT ZODIAC - AND HERE IS THE FBI FILE TO PROVE IT

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