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MORE THAN JUST "BY KNIFE"

3/15/2019

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Serial killer Karl Francis Werner may inadvertently have been responsible for the murder of Cecelia Shepard and attempted murder of Bryan Hartnell at Lake Berryessa on September 27th 1969. Many people have questioned the Lake Berryessa attack as a Zodiac crime by pointing out that the Zodiac Killer included the month "Aug" on his November 8th 1969 'Dripping Pen' card, yet he failed to include this date on the car door of Bryan Hartnell's white Karmann Ghia. However, the inclusion of August on the 'Dripping Pen' card may be the confirmation of the "by knife" message on the car door withheld by police. As early as October 1st 1969, only four days after the Lake Berryessa attack, an article in the San Francisco Examiner entitled 'Sex Fiend Sought For Six Killings' stated "A psychotic killer police say brutally slays females for sexual gratification is loose in the North Bay today". Extremely irresponsible and factually incorrect journalism that may have driven the attack on a lone male in San Francisco to prove this assertion incorrect.

The Zodiac Killer would use this "North Bay" reference only twelve days later, after the callous execution of taxicab driver Paul Stine on October 11th 1969 in San Francisco, to confirm his link to Berryessa. The Zodiac Killer mailed a letter to the San Francisco Chronicle with the admission "
I am the same man who did in the people in the north bay area". The San Francisco Examiner would detail the withholding of part of the message on the car door at Berryessa, stating "There was more to the inked car door message than dates. But Captain Townsend masked the information, considered it "classified". In the September 30th 1969 edition of the Examiner, entitled 'Police Dare Cipher Killer', Captain Don Townsend dared him to write or phone again to prove he wrote the message: "There is more, and we are not releasing it now. Why? Because this man has a pattern of contacting the police and newspapers by phone and letter after his killings. We are holding back part of the note because, when and if he writes, he can say what else was written there - and thus prove he is the 'man who loves to kill'"   
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I believe the Zodiac Killer did respond - not as the police had hoped - but indirectly by the inclusion of the month of "August" on the November 8th 1969 'Dripping Pen' card, just five weeks later. The killer wrote "Des, July, Aug, Sept, Oct = 7". The murders in December, July and October were all perpetrated with a firearm, and police knew that September represented the Lake Berryessa attack with a knife. Therefore, it left "Aug" to figure out.

​The answer lies in the October 1st 1969 San Francisco Examiner edition, where investigators contemplated a link to the brutal stabbing and murder of two young girls in San Jose on August 3rd 1969. Debra Gaye Furlong (14) and Kathie Ann Snoozy (15) were found murdered in the Bay Area of San Jose, in what can only be described as a barrage of knife wounds. These murders were eventually linked to the hand of Karl F. Werner, who was also convicted of the Kathy Bilek murder. However, these murders were not solved until 1971. The October 1st 1969 Examiner stated "And today San Jose police, to the south, inquired of law enforcement officers here whether there was indication that the "Cipher Killer" might be linked to the knife slaying of two teenage girls Aug.3, still unsolved".   

This is exactly what the Zodiac Killer had hoped - and why he perpetrated the Lake Berryessa attack in the first place. He was laying the seeds for law enforcement to conclude this very idea - and the reason he switched to a knife attack on this occasion. The "Aug" reference was pushing law enforcement to conclude he was responsible for the brutal slaying of Kathie Snoozy and Debra Furlong - "by knife" - and therefore, in his mind, unequivocally linking himself to the Lake Berryessa stabbings. Had Karl Francis Werner not killed 
Kathie Snoozy and Debra Furlong, it is my contention that Cecelia Shepard would still be alive today.

The Zodiac Killer knew that he had to kill to secure the attention of the newspapers, and the bolder the attack, the more publicity he would generate. He had murdered three young people by July 4th 1969 and had sent newspapers a trinity of communications on July 31st 1969 containing three parts of a cipher, determined to secure the headlines he felt he deserved. His letters promised more murder if "
you do not print this cipher by the afternoon of Fry.1st of Aug 69, I will go on a kill ram-Page Fry. night. I will cruse around all weekend killing lone people in the night then move on to kill again, until I end up with a dozen people over the weekend". To his dismay, he felt he was being short-changed, writing in the August 4th 1969 'Debut of Zodiac' letter "I was not happy to see that I did not get front page coverage". At this point in time, without doubt, the Zodiac Killer would have been scouring the newspapers for progress on solving his cipher, along with updates on his crimes. Then came the savage knife attack on Kathie Snoozy and Debra Furlong in San Jose, featured on the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle on August 6th 1969: ​   

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"The two young girls, found dead Sunday on a sun-parched San Jose hillside, appear to have been victims of a sexual psychopath, whose blood frenzy led him to "overkill." Dr. John E. Hauser, Santa Clara county's chief medical examiner and coroner, said yesterday that the girls, Deborah Gay Furlong, 14, and Kathy Snoozy, 15, died in a "frenzied flurry of knife-wounds" inflicted so swiftly that neither gave any evidence of having struggled against the attack. Dr. Hauser, so shaken by the brutality of the crime he could scarcely find words, said the Snoozy youngster had 150 wounds on her back, 50 on the front and a "storm" of punctures on her neck. Deborah's body had about 100 wounds on her back and upper front and a dozen on her neck. Dr. Hauser said he was "puzzled" by many aspects of the brutal slaying. He said neither girl had been sexually molested; neither had suffered any wounds below her waist, neither gave evidence of having struggled to escape. Only the Snoozy girl, he said, had one small mark on her hand, suggesting she may have tried vainly to deflect the plunging knife.

The coroner said both girls must have died very quickly and he is investigating the possibility they may have been drugged before the stabbing began. Blood and skin samples as well as stomach contents have been sent for further examination to area laboratories, he said. The results should be known in a few days. It is Dr. Hauser's opinion that the multiple puncture wounds were inflicted by one or two small knives, the largest wound the size of a pocket knife with a half-inch blade. "I've never seen a case with this many stab wounds," Dr. Hauser said. "You know, I've been in this profession a long time and sometimes I think I'm rather callous, but when I saw these girls, believe me it was terrifying. "The Nazi sex mutilations during World War II were nothing compared to what was done to these young girls."

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The Zodiac Killer likely read this article and knew the course of action he needed to take to secure "front page coverage". His next crime had to be bolder, more savage and more personal - using a knife. The brutal murder of these two young girls by Karl Francis Werner would ultimately change the tactics of the Zodiac Killer in his relentless pursuit of notoriety. Seven weeks later he arrived on the shores of Lake Berryessa.

It has been questioned as to why the Zodiac Killer wrote "by knife" on the car door of Bryan Hartnell's vehicle, when it was patently obvious the couple had been stabbed with a knife. But it was much more than this. The writing of "by knife" on the car door was a statement to the publicity he felt he deserved, and was also partly alluding to the Snoozy and Furlong murders he would lay claim to just six weeks later. The "Aug" reference on the November 8th 1969 'Dripping Pen' card was further corroboration to the 'hidden' message on the car door of Bryan Hartnell. The Zodiac Killer attacked Bryan Hartnell and Cecelia Shepard with a knife at Lake Berryessa, then planted the seed on the car door to hint towards the San Jose murders just seven weeks earlier, to which he would finally confirm on his 'Dripping Pen' card at the beginning of November. He knew the month of August would be interpreted by law enforcement as the murder of Snoozy and Furlong, because law enforcement had contemplated the link only weeks earlier. The "by knife" message on the car door at Lake Berryessa, would on November 8th 1969, now hold much more significance than it did on September 27th 1969. 

Confirmation of the Snoozy and Furlong "August" link, would arrive on July 13th 1971 when a pasted card was mailed to the San Francisco Chronicle with the words "Near Monticello Shought Victims 21 ...... In The Woods Dies April". The Zodiac Killer was now claiming (or at the very least associating himself with) Karl Francis Werner's third victim, Kathy Bilek. On Sunday, April 11th 1971, Kathy Bilek (18) visited Villa Montalvo in Saratoga with the intention to read a book and engage in a spot of birdwatching in the seclusion of a remote, wooded portion of the park, near a small stream. Her body was found the next day by her father, Charles, while Santa Clara County Sheriff's deputies searched nearby. She had been stabbed 17 times in the back and 32 times in her chest and stomach. The Zodiac Killer's requirement to associate himself with three brutal stabbings despite the fact he wasn't responsible for any, tells you all you need to know regarding his quest for notoriety - and why he was only too willing to write "by knife" on the car door at Lake Berryessa.on September 27th 1969. Its meaning went far beyond the obvious.      

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Drew
3/16/2019 08:45:29 am

This is a home run Richard, great work! I think you are spot on with all you have deduced here!

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Richard
3/16/2019 08:58:28 am

Thanks Drew, I thought you'd left us for good.

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Drew
3/16/2019 10:31:35 am

I am back with you, Richard. Tell Rubislaw I am here. I have always been here.

I haven't had much to contribute lately but I am still eager for any new ideas. This Werner inspiration idea feels bang on and helps me contextualize how and why he claimed other crimes he likely didn't commit.

Thanks for continuing to plug away here.

Richard
3/16/2019 03:59:40 pm

Nice to see you back.

BB
3/16/2019 12:05:51 pm

Well done Richard!

This gave me an Idea.
I think that we should explore the double "L" as signifying the notion of the Little List.

As some day it may hapen that a victom must be found. I've got a little list...
All funny fellows, commic men and clowns of private life. They'd none of them be missed. They'd none of them be missed. And uncompromising kind such as wachmacallit, thingmebob, and like wise, well - - nevermind, and tut tut tut tut, and whashisname, and you know who, but the task of filling up the blanks I rather leave up to you. But it really doesn't matter whom you place upon the list, for none of them be missed, none of them be missed.
PS. The Mt. Diablo Code concerns Radians & # inches along the radians

Perhaps billow and tit willow were pointing to the double "L" but the majority of words with LL have the i before the L's.
We do see him spell UTIL with two L's. Also the Hardens point to "LL" as being the way the cracked it.
Also "LL" is on the out side of the car doors Yellow Cab Co. and Vallejo...by knife.
The notion of this signifying the little list makes sense if he is looking to try to justify his killings by giving the little list as his constant subliminal message of "LL" in all his correspondence. Not saying that his name is not William. Just maybe he fixates on people with this "LL" in their names. Sullivan, Hartnell, Allen, PauL___AveLy on the Apollo and Villa Montalvo Near Monticello he tells us he will kill because the little list tells him "none will be missed".

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BB
3/16/2019 02:01:40 pm

Then there is Richard Marshall and Gareth Sewell Penn and the Phillips 66 Road Map. The Zodiac pointed to the L's in Phillips. And he strangely mentions "still" in his correspondence. Also there is the Incline Village post card. And Halloween Card.

[ if ] "you do not print this cipher by the afternoon of Fry.1st of Aug 69, I will go on a kill ram-Page Fry. night. I will cruse around all weekend killing lone people in the night then move on to kill again, until I end up with a dozen people over the weekend". - Curious he uses the term lone people and then does not spell [until] with two L's - at least it proves he can spell correctly if it is on his mind. Does this say that he purposely misspells when it is to send a hidden meaning?

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Robo
3/19/2019 07:51:17 am

Yes, correct.

Halloween card reveals a new victim.



https://youtu.be/zx9HssyDdHk

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Rubislaw 32 link
3/16/2019 02:31:27 pm

Well thanks for being mentioned,in dispatches,Drew.And nice to see you return to the fray,of Zodiac related engagement.

I am suffering from too much ''mean spirited-ness'',which the Zodiac case tends to engender.

When will there be an arrest ? It's likely that we will never be given any forewarning.So,we must try to remain cheerful.

At least when/if they do arrest the Zodiac,they will make ''darn sure'',that they have him ''for keeps''.

With the GSK on remand,for so long,without prosecution,who knows how that case is going to end up [?].

I like the ideas brought up,with the ''LL'' observations,BB,and will examine your suggestions,in more details.

With ''LL'',Lyndon Lafferty immediately comes to mind,though I don't think that the Zodiac was too thoughtful about individual cops,ever.

''LL'' and ''JJ'' [...Jerry Johnson..],were seen as the ''Sherlock Holmes and Dr.Watson'' of Vallejo,at one time.

But,this would have been after,the Toschi fan mail scandal had blown the chances of a conviction for Paul Stine's murder....and the Vallejo Police had blown the chances of convictions,for LHR and BRS,after ''manhandling'' Mr.Grant.

So,that would just leave ''Lake Berryessa'',as something ''winnable'' [?].But,they messed up the crime scene,on that one.

Perhaps ''Double L'' and ''Double J'',were just seen as a couple of ''Emperors with no clothes'',then [?].

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Richard
3/16/2019 03:55:33 pm

The Zodiac certainly liked to play on words. That Halloween card is certainly testimony to that. The problem is, every time you look at these communications something else pops out - it's working out the intended parts by the killer. The four quadrants certainly has some meaning to the killer. I sometimes think the Zodiac (if he was responsible) burnt Kathleen Johns to satisfy the four methods he displayed 7 months later. I know Michael Cole makes note of this in his upcoming book. Should be an interesting read BB and Rubi.

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Richard
3/16/2019 03:56:40 pm

Correction: Burnt Kathleen Johns vehicle.

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Rubislaw 32 link
3/16/2019 04:30:50 pm

Perhaps I have always been too 'sniffy' about the Johns abduction,Richard.

The abduction is,after all,officially attributed as the responsibility of the Zodiac.But,much about Ms.Johns's account doesn't ring true....and there was clearly a move,at that precise time,to encourage the Zodiac,to start writing again.

Yes,the ''By Fire'' claim by the Zodiac,does seem to require more ''transparency''.And,did he actually become someone that,at least attempted arson [?].

In a book I have,about collections of serious criminals,there is some references to claims that the Zodiac may have been responsible for heath fires,on hills around the Bay Area,at that time.

One presumes,then,''nuisance'' crimes.

I will have another look at the book,and report anything of note,I find.

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Rubislaw 32 link
3/17/2019 02:45:27 am

Just taking the opportunity,Richard,to mention that I have spotted another potential ''Darlene'' clue,in Zodiac's writing.

It may have been spotted,before [?].

It is never my intention,to ''sell'' an idea.I was about 50:50 on the Zodiac knowing Darlene,before my work on the ''340''.That has increased,in belief that he did know her,with [personally] finding that the Zodiac refers to Darlene twice.

In addition,the ''horizontals'' on the back of the Halloween Card,with the message : '' By,D,By - NCP ''...with ''NCP'',the abbreviation for ''Nincompoop'' [...i.e.Zodiac didn't mean to kill her,had he realised that she had no intentions to rat on him...].

But,now I see this ''extra'' one,with the SLA letter.The possibility that,the ''Mr.Editor'' was a nod to ''Mr.Ed,the talking horse'',with the ''horseshoe'' style of ''E''.

But,but...also,I see that Darlene and Mike had intended to eat,at a Diner called ''Mr.Ed's'',before their attack,from the Zodiac.

These are all 'tenuous'' clues...and could be taken,with a pinch of salt,granted.

But I haven't yet seen any potential clues,that actually names a victim....other than the name of Ms.Ferrin's.

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Rubislaw 32 link
3/17/2019 02:54:53 am

...could be of interest,if anyone knows,or has a picture of the front of the Diner,in Vallejo,called ''Mr.Ed's'' [?].

The ''E'' of ''Mr.Editor'' does seem to be graphically constructed with two horseshoes [SLA letter].

And,of course,a ''little haunting'' recently,with the 2001 New Years Card,including ''Mr.Editor''.

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Richard
3/17/2019 05:39:34 am

Here is the proper version of the SLA letter Rubislaw. Note the different E in Editor and also SLAY now reads SLA.
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/uploads/4/9/7/1/4971630/slaletter1_orig.gif

If you go to the Fairfield page you will also notice I have placed the proper version of Bleeding. It looks nothing like the horribly reproduced versions. Both these near originals are from the FBI.

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Rubislaw 32 link
3/17/2019 11:18:49 am

I am struggling to access the pages to view,with your reference details,Richard.

Is there an easier way to find these pages ?

Most appreciated.

Richard
3/17/2019 11:32:49 am

Yes, use the menu on the left side of the homepage for Fairfield letter and SLA letter.

Rubislaw 32 link
3/17/2019 06:33:28 am

Thanks,Richard....I'll have a good look,with reference given.

I finally found ''Mr.Ed's'' drive-in diner...here at your site [ Mr.Ed's Drive-in 4/22/2017 ].

Of course,as is officially documented,in police reports,David and Betty Lou,had just eaten at ''The Pancake House''.With Mike and Darlene,purportedly,about to eat at Mr.Ed's.

Looking at the signage at Mr.Ed's,I see the rivets/horseshoe element,to the ''E''.But,it is more ''rigidly'' presented,than presumed Zodiac's ''E'',in the SLA letter.

Thanks again for the reference.I'll get back to that,shortly,with a trusty magnify glass.

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Rubislaw 32 link
3/17/2019 06:43:43 am

If of any interest,to anyone,what I found was that,in the 340,the anagrams were many in number,but ''localised''....and that the Zodiac had presented ''Darlene'',in the final plain text,as ''A Red Len''.

[...of little consequence,perhaps....but,interesting,of itself [?]....]

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Robo
3/19/2019 07:52:37 am

Yes, correct.

Halloween card shows a New Zodiac victim

https://youtu.be/zx9HssyDdHk

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Richard
3/19/2019 09:59:52 am

Unfortunately Robert these numbers games are too subjective and too easy to create. If you have a name such as Nikki Benedict you are searching for in the Halloween card, then you will find it. Throwing a load of numbers around and forcing them to reveal Gareth Penn or Nikki Benedict in any of the cards or letters, would not have been achieved had you not had these names in your mind in the first place. Speaking words and interpreting them how you want to interpret them, and choosing when to subtract, add, divide or multiply a number at certain times requires an explanation. I will give you an interpretation of the Halloween card which I deleted as an article because I realized these numbers games were flawed, unless you can reproduce the identical technique through every card or cipher.

Here is an example: The second skeleton looks like how Paul Stine was laying in the taxicab. Using your three fingers on the first skeleton + the number 14 we get 17. Then we have the number 4 on the card inner. Then we have TEEN (somebody who reaches the age of 13). Adding together we have 17413 - the license plate of Paul Stine's taxicab. If you want the 'Y' I can get it for you. There are hundreds of other examples you can find. It really isn't that difficult.
The fact that the Halloween card has been posted online with countless different answers from Ed Edwards, Gareth Penn, Arthur Leigh Allen etc, shows how easy it is to guide these cards and ciphers to the answer you want. But as usual, each individual only thinks their answer is the correct one. The guy from Australia really believes what he has uncovered is compelling evidence, and nothing I say will make him believe otherwise. I have nothing against him or his ideas - he seems like a decent enough guy and is perfectly entitled to his beliefs. But the number game he is playing is a well trodden path and really easy to do. You can pick and choose all day long on the Halloween card, Pines card, 13 Hole postcard etc and literally make them say anything you want. You just have to decide what to select off them. I should know, I've done it and deleted at least 25 numbers games articles in the process. Cheers Robert.

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beatnik
2/13/2020 06:06:44 am

First of all i want to say how much i really appreciate the work you have done its is absolutely amazing. I especially take my hat off to you in regards to these connections which i too believe to be the case with K.F.Warner. Personally I think he may have killed Bates as well. The knife being his choice weapon. Bates had multiple stab wounds to the neck and no sexual assault. In regard to the 408 cipher i discovered that Area code 408 was created on January 1, 1959, and included most of Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Monterey and San Benito Counties. Santa Clara county was the area a serial killer was active. In the Halloween Card the word "knife" is the only word that has a letter turned on it's side. Also the backward "K" that was scribbled out in the Z 304 I believe may stand for "Karl". The " Fk I'm crackproof " statement could stand for Francis Karl. Thank you.

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Richard
2/13/2020 11:13:22 am

Cheers Beatnik, I didn't notice the Karl Francis as a possible suggestion. This is certainly the sort of idea I have been exploring, even looking for particularly "Kevin" or "Keith" in the phone book around Springs & Tuolumne , based on the five letter forename presented in the 1990 Celebrity Cypher card (if genuine of course) I have been unsuccessful, but certainly what you have suggested an interesting take based on the Werner connection. Hopefully we'll get there one day.

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