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JACK THE RIPPER

3/31/2014

 
"I keep on hearing the police have caught me but they wont fix me just yet. I have laughed when they look so clever and talk about being on the right track". Taunting words dragged from the 'Dear Boss' letter, presumably sent by Jack the Ripper and mailed on September 27th 1888, exactly 81 years prior to the Lake Berryessa attack on Bryan Hartnell and Cecelia Shepard. In this letter he taunted the police by stating "The next job I do I shall clip the ladys ears off and send to the police officers just for jolly wouldn't you. Keep this letter back till I do a bit more work, then give it out straight. My knife's so nice and sharp I want to get to work right away if I get a chance. Good Luck. Yours truly. Jack the Ripper".

Bearing in mind the wording on the Ripper letter, the 'next job' the Zodiac Killer undertook after the Lake Berryessa attack, was the murder of Paul Stine in the wealthy district of Presidio Heights on October 11th 1969. Despite the callousness of the crime, the Zodiac Killer did refrain from the unthinkable, despite removing several items from the crime scene and tearing off a section of Paul Stine's shirt and sending it to authorities. Two days after the murder, this letter, not dissimilar to the 'Dear Boss' letter, arrived at the San Francisco Chronicle on October 13th 1969. It said "The S.F. Police could have caught me last night if they had searched the park properly instead of holding road races with their motorcicles seeing who could make the most noise. The car drivers should have just parked their cars and sat there quietly waiting for me to come out of cover". He then backed this up in similar fashion one month later with the 'Bus Bomb' letter on November 9th 1969, stating "I gave the cops som bussy work to do to keep them happy. I enjoy needling the blue pigs. Hey blue pig I was in the park -- you were useing fire trucks to mask the sound of your cruzeing prowl cars".
Another letter , purported to have been sent by Jack the Ripper on October 11th 1889, starting with the same introduction 'Dear Boss' was received by the Whitechapel vigilance committee - although it has not been verified.

The Zodiac Killer mailed many letters, cards and ciphers during a five year period, beginning with the 408 cipher to three newspapers on July 31st 1969 and ending with the 'Exorcist' letter on January 29th 1974. Not one of these letters signed off with the words 'Yours Truly' Zodiac Killer. But on April 24th 1978, a letter which arrived at the San Francisco Chronicle, declaring "I am back with you" would change all that. The letter read:

Dear Editor,
This is the Zodiac speaking I am back with you. Tell herb caen I am here, I have always been here. That city pig toschi is good but I am smarter and better he will get tired and leave me alone. I am waiting for a good movie about me. who will play me. I am now in control of all things.
                       yours truly :
Zodiac symbol - guess
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Dear Boss, I keep on hearing the police have caught me but they wont fix me just yet. I have laughed when they look so clever and talk about being on the right track. That joke about Leather Apron gave me real fits. I am down on whores and I shant quit ripping them till I do get buckled. Grand work the last job was. I gave the lady no time to squeal. How can they catch me now. I love my work and want to start again. You will soon hear of me with my funny little games. I saved some of the proper red stuff in a ginger beer bottle over the last job to write with but it went thick like glue and I cant use it. Red ink is fit enough I hope ha. ha. The next job I do I shall clip the ladys ears off and send to the police officers just for jolly wouldn't you. Keep this letter back till I do a bit more work, then give it out straight. My knife's so nice and sharp I want to get to work right away if I get a chance. Good Luck. Yours truly
Jack the Ripper
Dont mind me giving the trade name
PS Wasnt good enough to post this before I got all the red ink off my hands curse it No luck yet. They say I'm a doctor now. ha ha
To view actual letter click here.

This is the first time the Zodiac Killer, or indeed a copycat, would sign off with the words 'yours truly', reminiscent of the 'Dear Boss' letter. In both examples the wording of 'your' is written in lower case and 'yours truly' is placed exactly one line down and central to the main body of text.
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Then, nine years later, another letter mailed to the Vallejo Times-Herald on October 28th 1987 arrived with wording all too familiar. It again emphasized that the Zodiac Killer was "still here", almost reminding us of the fact he had never gone away. In many people's eyes this letter was deemed a poor imitation, crafted from the inspiration of previous correspondence. Nevertheless, this letter also signed off with the words 'yours truly' once again, in extremely similar fashion to the 1978 letter. See here. In the 1978 letter the author stated  "I am waiting for a good movie about me" and in the 1987 letter the author stated "Cars make nice weapons. The pigs can catch me if they can find me out there. Just like in the movie The Car". The Zodiac Killer, if we take these two letters as genuine, appeared to be reminding the American public that he was definitely far from dead, as some press speculation had considered - due mainly to the Zodiac Killer's lack of correspondence subsequent to the 'Exorcist' letter in early 1974. But now he was back..... in fact he had never gone away.

Yours Truly-Jack the Ripper was a short story by Robert Bloch, published in Weird Tales in July 1943 and was made for television on 11th April 1961, directed by Ray Milland and starring Boris Karloff, John Williams and Beverly Powers. See here.
In the story Sir Guy (John Williams) attempts to convince the police that Jack the Ripper is far from dead - in fact, he is very much alive and still claiming victims - this time in New York. (see Albany Letter). In one line he says "Now none of these Ripper murders received the notoriety of those in London, many went almost unnoticed, but they did occur" and went on to elaborate "I've studied everything about them, especially the dates and the pattern made by those dates, I've studied their rhythm, the solar and lunar rhythm". See here. The police thought these new murders were a copycat, attempting to replicate the murders of Jack the Ripper, and poured scorn on the idea he was still around. Could the Zodiac Killer have read the book or viewed this television episode and deliberately signed off these later letters with the phrase 'yours truly' to again ridicule the police and authorities, who thought that he was dead also.       

In the 'Bus Bomb' letter on November 9th 1969, the Zodiac Killer had declared his intention to make his murders look like "routine robberies, killings of anger, + a few fake accidents, etc". This now, was possibly backfiring on him, as nobody could ascertain if he was still killing or even alive for that matter. Is it credible to believe that the notoriety of Jack the Ripper, that may have inspired his original search for recognition in 1968, would now reappear in the modus operandi of the Zodiac Killer in later years, albeit concealed in the innocuous line of two simple words - those of 'yours truly'. 

Boris Karloff thriller - Yours truly, Jack the Ripper.  
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Marcelo link
3/31/2014 07:03:59 am

Hard not to notice 1888 (when the infamous Jack also posted his letter), finally, another great article!

Rich
3/31/2014 07:39:30 am

I had to resist the temptation.
Also Kelly is generally considered to be the Ripper's final victim, and it is assumed that the crimes ended because of the culprit's death, imprisonment, institutionalization, or emigration. The Whitechapel murders file does, however, detail another four murders that happened after the canonical five: those of Rose Mylett, Alice McKenzie, the Pinchin Street torso and Frances Coles.
Mylett was found strangled in Clarke's Yard, High Street, Poplar on 20 December 1888. As there was no sign of a struggle, the police believed that she had accidentally choked herself while in a drunken stupor, or committed suicide.[39] Nevertheless, the inquest jury returned a verdict of murder. From Wikipedia.
September 27th - Dear Boss Letter - Lake Berryessa
October 11th - Whitechapel Letter - Paul Stine
December 20th - Murder of Rose Mylett
July 4th - !!! - Blue Rock Springs
The links are not solid enough to generate any real correlation.

Marcelo
3/31/2014 08:51:40 am

Z is becoming the Jack of America, the complicated about it all, in both cases, is that as time passes, and of course the natural deterioration of physical evidence, a multitude of conjectures confuse the whole thing around that.
Yes I also tried!!
Even Lewis Carroll was raised suspicions. Sorry if I say silly, I know only the basics of the story of Jack
Marcelo

sandy betts link
8/18/2015 03:05:29 pm

I find the dates of the 1986 and 87 letters very interesting. One of those dates is one of my suspects birthday.There was a young boy from Vallejo who ran into an older man at Bob's Big Boy restaurant during the same time frame as these two letters. The older man saw that the boy who was cutting school was reading the Zodiac book. He told the boy that he was a fan of the Zodiac's. The boy thought the man was just playing around with him. Then two days later the boy went back to the restaurant and the waitress told the boy that the older man left him a gift in a brown paper bag. Inside was another Zodiac book and written inside was : I thought you might like an autographed copy.
It was signed Zodiac with the Z's logo. The boy many years later hears or reads something about the web site Zodiackiller.com. He checks it out to see if any of the suspects shown on that site looked like the older man he had met. He didn't find the picture but looked at some of the links to other sites . He went to ZodiacVortex it was there that he saw the mans picture and that was when he got in touch with me, to tell me that it was my suspect who gave him the autographed Zodiac book. There us still hope that Zodiac will be caught!

BB
12/23/2017 01:43:45 pm

sandy betts - do you know the name of the suspect?

sandy betts link
5/5/2018 06:54:31 pm

BB , I was told by VPD he looked like Larry Kane. When Kane died and my "secret admirer"was still around. I had to get his true name. Just this past week it was confirmed his first name is Anthony aka Tony. His last name may be Silva, Lopez, Duarte, Gentry or Hernandez? His buddy is R. Hernandez. I was told that he has moved to Los Angeles a while back, perhaps to be close to the boarder in case he needs to get away? It was also confirmed that he worked in construction.

One thing that seems for sure about Zodiac, he probably admired Jack the Ripper. Now Richard has proven that to be very possibly true.
Lets hope this June, we will have a better idea of who Zodiac is and can bring him to Justus! I believe he is very much alive.

BB
5/13/2018 10:55:30 am

sandy betts

Thank you for the interesting information.
I appreciate your many contributions to this case.
And, I admire you for your patience dealing with all the mean bullies.
You have heart! Yours Truly - blue belly AKA BB

sandy betts link
5/14/2018 08:10:56 am

BB, It is kind people like you that help me to keep going. I ignore the trolls, because they are ignorant people. More than likely it is one or two posting as different people. I am very sure that I know who one of the trolls is. He has made it his mission to try and discredit me for over 20 yrs now. But he can't because I am telling the truth.Soon we will have the Zodiac's DNA and hopefully he will be caught.Thanks again for your kind words.

BB
5/18/2018 04:18:50 pm

sandy betts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLbOBoa8vD8

I'm on your side

mickey chen
9/23/2017 03:48:26 pm

The letters have more in common than they appear to. Perhaps not these specific letters but others attributed to the zodiac.

G.lindsey
5/5/2018 06:15:14 pm

Ross Sullivan was the zodiac


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