Maybe the Answer is to change the Question?

5/22/2016

r When it comes to this case there are the facts that are non disputable and therefore accepted with evidence, and there are certain things that get believed by so many that it almost becomes or appears as this also has moved from 'Not Known' to 'We believe this is probably true' and as such, it rarely gets challenged.

One of these seeming Universal beliefs, or at least one held by the Overwhelming Majority, is that Z was heading for The Presidio after executing Stine. After all, He was last observed going in that general direction, a dark and logical place to disappear as A Fleeing Killer and above all, Zodiac Himself told you this was His destination at least six times over Two letters. It seems very important to the Writer of these letters that the readers of them come away without any question as to where He, Zodiac, was headed that night and concealed from view.

Now in the meantime people have paid close attention to and wondered why it was that Zodiac gives His destination as 'Washington and Maple streets' when entering the Cab, but actually ends up a block further coming to a stop at Washington and Cherry streets instead. Well here is my answer to this mystery: Let's change the question. Let's ignore the cherry vs maple as the Destination He was to get to in the cab and focus on a new line of inquiry instead: Where was His true Destination after leaving The Taxi? Let's have a look. . .

Now it won't be a shock to some people that I have never believed the theory generally accepted of Zodiac fleeing to the Presidio. Why? Well, for a number of reasons. Two give just two of my reasons for doubt:

Zodiac Himself stating He directed The Police Car with Eric and Don occupying it to Arguello and He watched it "Go around the corner as I had directed them" which is the corner directly leading off Jackson and Arguello Streets and onto West Pacific Avenue. So Zodiac's directed the cops onto W. Pacific Av. which is into The Presidio itself and He then claims that He "Disappeared into the park a block and half away never to be seen again!" How does He turn down Maple and drop through to West Pacific Avenue crossing to the Presidio foliage and down to JK Park specifically cross W.P Avenue unseen when Don and Eric are either coming down this short road or are already the other side of the wall at Maple Entrance? Does it make sense and sound right that Z is going to direct The Police into the exact area He Himself is planning to use to secure His escape? He ain't going that way and it's my contention that this is the reason He sends Eric and Don off on a wild search for Non existent Gun Waving nut cases in these very Ground, directing them to an area away from His own planned route, not directly into it and ballsing up your own planned escape route.
I echo Chief of Homicide Inspector's Martin Lee's no nonsense dismissal of Zodiac's brag of the police could have caught Him if they had searched the park properly. He responded to this in the Chronicle by rather nicely declaring that Zodiac is full of shit, He's a liar and there was simply no way He was, as He claimed, in the park. Lee asserts further that Zodiac was not even in the general vicinity of the Presidio and pointed to having several search lights illuminating the Park as if it were day time, a small army of SFPD Cops searching tree by tree and bush by bush, and having Seven K-9 units on site leading to Lee Concluding: "He was not in that Park. A Mouse could not have escaped our attention" And I agree with that rebuttal of Lee's.

So the question most ask is why Cherry when He seems to give Maple and maybe this question is a valid one but if it is, it surely has to take a backseat to the clearly overlooked Elephant there in the room and that is: Why Washington and any Street,? If it's the Presidio He's looking to get to, Jackson is surely the street of choice! Why not direct Paul to Jackson and Maple??

Let's remember that most believe He's planning to escape into The Presidio, so why give your destination as Washington and any street, being on Washington means you give yourself an extra Block to backtrack over before arriving on Jackson Street where His Presidio is. All this will do is simply increase the potential to be spotted by numerous witnesses in homes all along your escape route & make His capture far more likely when, Had He so wished, He could have directed Paul to take Him directly to Jackson and Maple right where the Presidio itself is located and almost guarantee nobody would see Him leave the cab. Instead, He walks casually down Cherry and again is seemingly totally disinterested with the offer of The Cherry Street Presidio Entrance where everyone is sure He's heading.

It doesn't make any sense nor is it logical, even by the Zodiac's standards, to ignore the Cherry Entrance through to the Presidio if that is where He is heading but instead decide to turn down Jackson. And after He makes this puzzling decision to go down Jackson Street He encounters cops responding to His own outrage who call over to Him and He then subsequently directs them to go searching in The Presidio, the same Presidio He is planning to go in a few seconds. It's so counter intuitive it's almost unbelievable.

My idea or theory is, as already mentioned and always has been that He never intended to escape into that Park, or anywhere within The PRESIDIO grounds itself and He opting to stop and walk an extra block in my own opinion and view backs this up. How and why? Well lets assume It is a residence He is making a B-Line for situated on Jackson Street somewhere close or in the vicinity of, let's say an example only, Kjells Home of 3636. Well, If I live there, or my family member does, or If I am known locally to have a connection to any house near there where I am fully planning to dash to, I ain't going to pull up outside or even a few doors down and kill Paul because if spotted by someone that likely will instantly recognize me, I am done and all but caught. If you as my next door but one Neighbor spot me at or leaving that cab and heading toward my House it's game over so How can you best try to ensure that nobody close to your house will see you or can connect you in any way at all to the cab? Do exactly what Z did, go one street over.

If your heading for A home your associate or linked to, it makes perfect sense now to kill Paul away and a street over, your not going to want any of your neighbors seeing you in or near a cab that instantly will recognize you and link you and the house you've just fled into with the cab 4 doors away on the street.

He has motive to misdirect you, He has an agenda to require you to look at His waving right hand as He doesn't want you to see what He has in the Left.

THE ART OF SUGGESTION!

The simple yet effective art of SUGGESTION! Followed by a sprinkle of Misdirection and He gets you to look in all the wrong places simply by repeatedly offering you to accept one thing, PARK! He makes reference to it over half a dozen times in 5 pages of writings and this is no accident! If you believe Him and His little park destination, well, I'll borrow His own declaration of "You deserve to have holes in your heads."

If I had committed a vicious homicide next to a golf course and I wrote telling the Police over and over and over and over that "As i was walking down the Green on the 7th parr 4 hole to the bunker to hide, this cop buggy puled up..." Then "Hey Meanie Pig, I was in the sand trap on the 7th hole...." and "The Filth could have detained me last evening if they had searched the 7th Parr 4 properly instead of ignoring the bunker believing I wouldn't have submerged myself below the surface...." If I kept telling you this over and over, you'd start wondering why!

Below are just three examples of His offer to you to accept His park Story & Destination lest, God forbid, you may start to look elsewhere near by and Z doesn't want you doing this and this is why He goes to such effort to use two arts, the art of suggestion, followed by the art of Misdirection. He subtly makes a suggestion several times your not even aware He is making to you, so you accept the suggestion He offered you. Successfully and easily misdirected people's attention by repeating the word Park over and over, job done!

47 Comments

Richard

5/22/2016 03:06:34 am

This is a perfectly valid question Welsh. In a previous article I noted the Zodiac in his correspondence mentioned Vallejo several times, yet despite his first murders occurring in Benicia, he never mentions this once. Even the phone call was placed in Vallejo, as though to suggest he was a resident here, the idea being, he was attempting to misdirect and focus the police to an area he never lived.
As for the Stine murder, it is perfectly logical, if the killer say lived in Jackson Street, he would leave a buffer zone between his house and the murder site. This would depend on the person involved, but could be one block or a few. Obviously the further you separate the two, the longer you have to walk and risk being stopped and questioned. The shorter the distance, you bring canvassing and local recognition into the equation. It's a fine balance.
If the killer had killed Stine at Washington and Maple, the taxicab running out of control, with Zodiac pushing against Stine to coast the taxicab to Washington and Cherry, he may have had limited control of the vehicle, such that a turn north up Cherry may have been risky. He then cut his losses and headed for the park. Maybe if he had his own car parked in Jackson ie; the getaway vehicle, then he is not likely to murder Stine, hop out of the taxicab and straight into his vehicle, two cars down, he risks being spotted and having his license clocked. Therefore, just as he would leave a buffer zone if he lived in the area, he would do the same for an identifying vehicle. The same, as you pointed out is not needed for a trip to the park. I cannot believe the trip up Cherry and east on Jackson was his initial intended route, it makes little sense, he is effectively backtracking on his original stated destination. But I know what you are implying, that he lived close by. Beating on about the park is irrelevant if you left the area in a car, it doesn't matter now, the police didn't catch you, end of story. But by harping on about the park as your likely escape route, it tends to draw the police away from your home residence, and create misdirection. The question is, if Zodiac lived close by, what buffer zone did he afford himself. What buffer zone would you apply. The longer he spent at the crime scene, in particular the removal of the shirt piece, eats into his timeline of security, reducing the time logically he wants to be wandering around after the event. To me the apparent change of destination may have been another misdirection, if not an accident he hadn't factored in.

Alex

5/22/2016 01:54:59 pm

I think this Rich is lke everything in terms of what conclusion you reach or opinion on an issue, it's dependent on the perspective of the person looking at it.

I always try and will do when I can to form opinions with a basis or supporting evidence or facts to point to as to why I might believe scenario A over and opposed to Scenario B. But there will by obviously such as this example of 'Z having waiting Car in PH vs Not having one.'
I have always believed and, despite any clear or persuasive arguments or evidence either for or against, I don't see it as likely at all. Zodiac knows full well this is not a non lit unpopulated Country Road out on Lake Herman, nor a post midnight parking lot ambush and drive away. This Killing He will place the victim and Himself right in the middle of the upper middle class and Multi-Million dollar mansions in Pacific Heights within the Richmond District. The number of potential witnesses to observe Him getting into a vehicle and it;s tag is very high. In fact, if you bet me you could shoot a cabbit at W & C streets and traverse along to Jackson and Maple without anyone seeing you whatsoever I'd say yes it's possible, but given the area, the time, the lighting etc etc, Highly unlikely to happen as it proved when Z was at the cab itself their were witnesses already speaking to the Dispatching Police Officer at SFPD, you know, the slightly deaf/mentally handicapped dispatcher who is told "HE IS A WHITE GUY, HE IS LEAVING THE SCENE NOW AND...." Dispatcher of excellence cuts in ""Stay on the line kid.....( switches to other Mic to give radio cars the details "All units respond to W & C streets area we have a cabbie assault in progress and possibly being robbed. BOLO for a Black Male Adult with a blonde crew cut with red tint.

Was He still close by when search effort was fully in swing or did He get the info of the motorcycles and barking dogs elsewhere? I'd say: He's there and sees it Himself. I mean He doesn't have any time to get out of that area realistically because He sends Don and Eric into the Presidio.....Can't run into there now, Cop cars probably flying up and down Jackson and searching the street area too so He must be Hidden securely and my hunch is He is either in the rear garden of 3712 as He was last seen walking directly toward, or He is n a house itself.

Another thing that isn't sitting right with me lately Rich is this:

Don and Eric know that there is a suspect somewhere on or near to Maple street on Jackson, They also are aware this guy is armed and extremely dangerous. So you and I Rich, having both seen US Cops and the way they police and respond are asked to believe Don saw a male, slowed to stop and decided to call Him over "Oii, get here now!" and He and Eric remain in vehicle sat like brilliant sitting duck targets for any armed assailant.

That has never ever happened in every US police response to a 911 call where firearms are involved, and in every single instance I have ever seen when US Police spot a potentially armed suspect, they stop, doors open and guns drawn and aimed with orders for suspect to lay face down arms out to the side and any sudden moves are not advised.

Alex Lewis

5/26/2016 05:47:10 am

I am not saying Zodiac Himself Necessarily lived in that area, He may have done but He may have simply had a Family member or Friend that lived there.
All I do know Rich is if He does not have any connection to that area, specifically Jackson Street, then He has made a number of choices that just make no sense for a man heading for the Presido.

The Number One thing I would do if I planned to execute a cab driver and flee into the Presidio is direct the driver straight to Jackson and Maple Intersection where you need only to step out of the cab and 10 or so footsteps later your at the Presido Entrance on Maple. Why in the World would you elect to get taken to Washington St?

Then as I put in the article, We have a man will later tell us over and over again that He was walking down the hill to, and then remained hidden within, the Julius Kahn Park area of the Presidio yet on the night itself seemingly shows no interest in Cherry Street and it's offering of A quick Entrance into the unlit grounds which would allow Him the cover of darkness and foliage to get to JK Park, but instead He want's to get there via the Lit streets of Jackson. Bull Shit.

Alex Lewis

5/26/2016 06:04:39 am

" This would depend on the person involved, but could be one block or a few. Obviously the further you separate the two, the longer you have to walk and risk being stopped and questioned. The shorter the distance, you bring canvassing and local recognition into the equation. It's a fine balance. "

Absolutely agree. I think He went one street over and a block or so away from His likely Residential Destination in hopes of distancing Himself and His Home from the Can and scene itself and also believed that if seen. it is less likely He will be immediately recognized. But Rich that is exactly what that FBI report Implies did end up happening anyway when it said that: "Eight year old witness in murder of Taxi Driver Identified *Name Redacted* as possible subject in this matter."

This is why Rich I am bugging the shit of the FBI to release that Name in this Document because I honestly believe Rich that discovering His Identity will lead to the Zodiac's Identity Unearthed also. Big Claim to make I know. The other couple of FOIA requests I have made to the FBI to ask for the release of named suspects in different Zodiac documents have all been granted and I have been supplied with them. This one, this one name here with the Witness ID, on my Third Submitted Request now and that was back in December last year. Still waiting.

Alex Lewis

5/26/2016 09:58:41 am

"But I know what you are implying, that he lived close by. Beating on about the park is irrelevant if you left the area in a car, it doesn't matter now, the police didn't catch you, end of story. But by harping on about the park as your likely escape route, it tends to draw the police away from your home residence, and create misdirection."

Yep, you got it in one mate. This is exactly what I am saying. And again, that park area was thoroughly searched for hours that night, and they found no trace of anyone anywhere in a search effort that Lee declared no mouse could have been there without them finding it. So He wasn't in that Park and yet, He was still somewhere near to it because when Lee called him and Liar about claiming He was in there, Zodiac replied by offering proof by telling Lee that when it was that the motorcycles went by and in what direction of travel and that the dogs never came within 2 blocks of Him and that there were two groups of them and that they were to His West.
So He hasn't left in a car, or this He would not be able to recount. He isn't in the park, they have swarmed the area and it's illuminated like mid-day. So where does that leave?

Richard

5/22/2016 03:19:19 am

"Hey blue pig I was in the park -- you were useing fire trucks to mask the sound of your cruzeing prowl cars. The dogs never came with in 2 blocks of me + they were to the west + there was only 2 groups of parking about 10 min apart then the motor cicles went by about 150 ft away going from south to north west."

It could equally be said that the detail he provided in this piece was designed to convince you he was in the park. Details such as 2 blocks, 10 mins apart, 2 groups and 150 feet, all suggestive of first hand experience, when actually none of this is actually necessary. It reminds me of "The man who told police that my car was brown was a negro about 40-45 rather shabbly dressed. I was in this phone booth having some fun with the Vallejo cop when he was walking by. When I hung the phone up the damn thing began to ring & that drew his attention to me + my car." Brown car, shabbily dressed, 40-45, and me+my car. Was this stated to make it appear he was validating an eyewitness who saw his car, when he was actually on foot. However this may focus the attention back on Vallejo as his residence, something earlier I was suggesting he was trying to divert us away from.

Alex Lewis

5/22/2016 04:03:55 am

Well Rich I look at the overall big picture, the Z's own decisions and actions, the evidence and testimony etc and there is no way,for me, He was hidden in or close by on the grounds of either The Presidio or JK Park. I mean what will One do if He's not able to go anywhere as He suggests because looking North, Sth East & West will only see SFPD Uniforms in a triangle closing in untill, uh-oh...."FREEZE,STEP OFF AND AWAY FROM THE SEA-SAW AND WAL BACK TOWARD MY VOICE!..."

Don't shoot Mr Great Boy In Blue, I errr, I ummm, I can Explain! I am a San Fran Public Park's Health and Safety Officer and I am here to, ummmm, yes, i am here after a complaint about this, this errrr, this Sea-Saw here squeeking!"

The police would Likely apologize and tell him "Please Officer, Continue...."

Suggestion can be underestimated as to how easy and effective it is as a tool. I don't always have ti physically ask you direct to accept I am Welsh, I can Suggest this by Hints and Clues and allow you to come to the conclusion I want you to that I am, because I must be, Welsh. The best thing about suggestion is you don't know there is a suggestion your accepting when you accept it. It's usually subconscious.

Alex Lewis

5/30/2016 03:07:38 am

Also, why does He feel the need to add to his statement by telling us where He was going when He tells us of His encounter with "PS: 2 Cops pulled a goof?" In His second sentence to describe the incident He states " I was walking down the Hill to the park when this cop car pulled up..." Why does He need to add something totally nob relevant to what He is saying? He's chinning the cops here, not offering His destination and He had already claimed this in the first letter telling us "I am the murderer of the taxi driver..."

He could just as easily have said "As I was walking down the Hill, this cop car pulls up and one of them called me over." He does not need to add the Park bit because it's not relevant here in this context of the statement. He is going to tell us "Hey blue Pig, I was in the Park" just a sentence or two later so this makes it even more unnecessary to add it here where He does.

To me, it's added as an one more attempt by Him to suggest to us that He was in that Park. If you drill something into someone by telling them something over and over again then before long, they just might start to believe it.

Alex

5/22/2016 02:56:33 pm

I mean there are claims I think are stretching it, then there are the claims made, suspects strongly touted that Are, What I like to call: "Ooo don't be so fucking stupid, are you serious/...? Which some are so stupd and counter-intuitive that you,well I can''t anyway, laughing at them. Take No.1 Big Dog Website support and Marketing Campaign for Zodiac Identity to be.....RICHARD GIAIKOWSKI!

Now please allow me to take he piss with sarcasm here as I use facts to do so....

Richard Gaikowski had always dreamed of touring Europe and In the late 60's realized that dream starting His Continent exploration in Ireland UK. This was a very very War torn, IRA Active Ireland back then and Gaik;s visit didn't go unnoticed as A Journalist for the Irish Times wrote a feature on His American Collegue declaring Former Editor of The Good Times Magazine and Tabloid Editor Dick Gaik arrived in Ireland....." Blah blah blah and declares Gaik is shocked at the State of living conditions and the Feature reports: "The Good Times Editor saw the conditions and desperate poverty many of Irelands hildren were being forced to live in because of us Adults problems and, Richard was so moved by this that I observed Him shed several tears."

Gaik, A man filled with compassionate concern and a ton of empathy for young people who are living n slums and terrible conditions and is seen to physically weep with sadness to seeing this because He cannot hold back tears at the observing of suffering of His fellow man.

Now Tom Void is absolutely fuckin convinced and there is no doubt that this is the fuckin San Francisco Zodiac Serial Killer!

YES....YES Tommy! I see it! A man clearly moved to tears over the suffering of others....."ZODIAC, ZODIAC!

Yes Thomas, if your looking to add one man with One Alias & Killer then then fuck me, you've added one and one and got 18 somehow. Genius! He's in Europe crying at conditions of living for Children one moment, before back in US to Berryessa where He's grunting and panting in excitement of His current stab frenzy like a lunatic as He stabs Bryan and Celelia and other homicides. He's not going to cry today Rich, no no He's going to relish, taunt and revel in the murderous greatness!

He'll be on the blower to Slover threatening suicide any now in floods of conscience inspired tears, then Tell Dave Slaight He can't live with Himself and "I'm the One that Did it, so i'm throwing myself off G'en Gate Bridge. Gooooood - Byeeeeeeeee"

I'd give anything to hear the opinion of One John Douglas on our Crier Mr Gaik's likely-hood to be a serial Nut case. "Now Mr Douglas, you are considered the World leading Authority on Serial Killers and their type of Behavior patters and personalities having Interviewed more Convicted Serial's than any one else On the Planet and, as such, allow me to pose a question if I may: Is it not the case, Mr Douglas that A Cold and callous killer, one who will and does Kill without a shred of remorse or regret, one who feels nothing nor cares for others because they are objects to Him, isn't this always associated with a Compassion Filled weeping man clearly showing His humanity for others, are these two things present and expected Mr J.D only Thomas Void says "Absolutely" and says you are an idiot not to agree and jump on His band wagon."

J.D would laugh at this very suggestion! "Serial Killers, Empathy filled and Compassionate people? Is that a serious claim by Mr Um, Mr...." ,I jump in "Uhhh Mr Thomas Voigt, owner of ZodiacKiller.com..."

I may imagine analogy's of trying to make a case that A Grizzly Bear and A Teddy Bear are both as safe to cuddle up to as the other, Tom? Am I correct? Lol

Alex Lewis

5/23/2016 11:44:52 am

Anyway, back to behaving and a topic that is both amusing, Sometimes concerning, very often confusing and quite alarming and that is People and Googling Zodiac specifically in regard to Kane. Now I know these weird and wonderful searches and phrases because if you end up on my Site in my stats and Facts area it tells me how you got to my page whether it be Vja This Website and Specific Page in a Link or if you used A searched engine and what exactly it was that the person now at my page had entered as the search text.

What I have discovered Rich is that quite a number of Cyber-Space users seem to think, or at least their searches would imply as such anyway, that I, Yes ME, I am A suspect. A lot of searches for "ALEX LEWIS ZODIAC KILLER" are entered. Now That ain't anything to do with searching for Kane info because no name Kane is entered in the text to search, so they obviously know of me to search my full name and double it with "Zodiac Killer"

I may have to do the unthinkable Rich and reduce the output of Sarcasm when Taking the piss out of something or someone, lest I Garner Suspicion from others for having a childish humor and love of witty Sarcasm.
The Humor of the Man writing some of the things He did I cannot help laugh at because that type of humor appeals to my sense of it. Take as the best example a wonderfully amusing piece of Literature that You and I may Informally call "Z's Badlands Letter" What a wonderful example of absolutely taking the piss using Tongue in Cheek.

But anyway, these searches are similar to Z in that sometimes they make you laugh and other times alarming as Hell Like: "Is Welsh Chappie The Zodiac Killer?"
I can answer that question by saying "If He is I demand to know how He pulled that off, Born in Wales in the year 1982, Shooting People In California in the summer of Love, 1969."

Fk Me I astonish myself sometimes with my own Abilities!!

Alex

5/23/2016 12:06:43 pm

Wait, No, not badlands letter, The Count Marco Letter I meant in which Zodiac is referring people to Psychiatrist's because they always seem to need to feel superior!

Some who have no understanding of Humor in the form of Tongue in Cheek will read The Count Marco literal and as if the Author of it is being deadly serious and pointing out that other people are mentally ill and shold be referred to the men in white coats and after they red this by Z will be outrabged and tell their partner "Have you read this? That nut lunatic killer 'Zodiac' has wrote to show His displeasure of the Count and then says they may need help from the Mental Health Community......This is a coming from Him! Him who dresses up like an absolute sinister psychotic executioner from the 1900's to stab two people for no reason is going to say someone else needs help!"

The absolute Irony in what Z is saying is not missed by Him, He knows it and is deliberately putting it there laughing in a way at Himself because He knows He is writing as A Homicidal nut case who will diagnose others as egocentric attention seekers!

Alex Lewis

5/23/2016 05:54:51 pm

But seen as we all congregate in the name and love of A good Mystery, Human Nature I suppose, if and when you get 45 mins spare watch this Documentary I'll link at the end of this post.

If You haven't already heard of 'The Mad Trapper' Mystery and it's fantastic story then you really should because I watched this 45 min Documentary and fell in love with the whole Mystery of the man at the Center of it and the Super-Human like efforts He pulled off In Canada's Snow and Ice covered Ykon Valley.
The mad Trapper Rich has a couple of parallels to the Zodiac, the main being Their Identities remain a mystery. The Trapper Case, just like the Zodiac Case, has had many books written about it and a handful of them made quite convincing arguments that the Trappers true Identity was Book A's Author's Uncle, or Book B declares He's actually a High Profie Fugitive from the States and several other books all adamantly declaring their book and Theory of His identity is actually the right and true one.

The Trapper was shot and killed then Buried in the 1930's or 40's (Cant recall offhand) and so with authors adamantly declaring they were right and the authors & publishers of other books were all wrong with several Documentaries, US TV shows featurng the case etc, it was decided as we entered the 21st Century to exhume the Trapper and in hopes of finding and securing a sample of His DNA that can then be tested against all the authors claimed suspects or a close relative thereof to settle it once and for all! Body Exhumed, teeth found and DNA successfully extracted with the Trapper full DNA Profile. They then tested it against all widely accepted claimed suspects, one of which many had been convinced was the real Mad Trappers Identity and DNA results showed Suspect No.1 after DNA Compared with Un-Sub Called Mad Trapper, RESULT: Zero percent and scientifically excluded as suspect. This was the result in every test carried out against the top 5 or 6 really strong suspects. A cautionary Nod to them who believe with such conviction that they'll author books too to tell us why Z has to be Suspect No.2 opposed to No.1, 3 and 4.

Anyway mate, fantastic story and documentary to take up 45-mins of your time watching: https://youtu.be/_hbJWxG4YYY

Drew

5/25/2016 08:17:45 pm

Alex, that article in the Irish Times regarding Richard's visit to that country sounds interesting. What date was it published, and is there a link to it?

Alex Lewis

5/26/2016 05:05:39 am

I don't remember offhand and I did Have it a while ago saved on my other old laptop. I will have a look and see if I can find it. The Point I was making though is if Richard is seen emotionally moved to the point of tears at the sight of fellow Human Being having to suffer, then I may not be a qualified profiler but I don't need to be to know that this kind of empathetic man is not going to be gunning down kids back home in the California and then write and brag about it with glee.

Now no doubt it was be claimed that He is simply weeping to set up an alibi lol.

Anyway Drew I will do my best to find it for you. Give me 24 Hrs or so and Ill let you know.

Alex Lewis

5/26/2016 05:13:04 am

Drew I have only just began looking but here is a reference to His trip to Europe in an Article by a writer that knew Richard.

"1968 was a pivotal year. The assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy, and the Democratic Convention, led Dick to question his relevance. He quit the paper and left for Europe. Not much later, he found himself in Northern Ireland where he witnessed a brutal attack on Queen’s University students who marched from Belfast to Derry with the People’s Democracy movement. He quickly penned an article for The Knickerbocker News about Ireland’s impending sectarian violence."

Here is a link: http://bobpaley.com/albany_sojourn.html

Alex Lewis

5/26/2016 08:53:21 am

As you can see if you use the link to read the Article, it opens by declaring Gaik was the Editor of The Knickerbocker News, one of Two major Newspaper's in Albany NY. He started His Trip around Europe in late 68 after He left the paper.
Now this is again absolutely consistent with Bob Loomis claim on the TV Episode of Mystery Quest where He declared and shows letters He had that were written to Him from Gaikowski posted out of Albany, NY. In 69 Richard returned to the States and only then moved to San Fran's Height Asbury and became the Editor of The Good Times Magazine.

Alex Lews

5/26/2016 09:13:13 am

Actually in Gaiks memoir He says He left for Europe at the end of Sept of 1968. The link I posted shows it at the very bottom.

In My own mind I am confident that Richard Gaikowski is not the San Francisco Zodiac, and there was nobody who ever suspected as such not until one lunatic called GoldCatcher Blane decided to accuse Him of being Z. Ken Narlow said He looked into Blane's accusations and was able to rule Gaik out pretty quickly. He then said that Blane and His claims are baseless and stated Blane was a good story teller and changed his story many time. Narlow's actual wording when He described Blane was 'A Kook.'

John

5/26/2016 04:34:25 pm

Alex....

From my research, the article you reference below does not exist in the Irish Times or any publication.

I'm not a Gyke fan.

If this article exists as you say. Let us see it and prove me wrong.

"A Journalist for the Irish Times wrote a feature on His American Collegue declaring Former Editor of The Good Times Magazine and Tabloid Editor Dick Gaik arrived in Ireland."

Alex Lewis

5/26/2016 04:53:58 pm

But Tom said in 2012 that He found it highly convenient and very suspicious that He cannot find any Passport for Dick Gaik.

Quite why Thomas thinks Dead Men require Passports is unknown to Me, I don't think they are in need of one on account of them being dead.

And how dare the Evidence contradict what Thomas states! If the Evidence suggests one thing, and Tom opposes it with His belief and conclusions, then Tom must take precedence and the opposing physical evidence be ignored. If you asked Tom:

"So Mr Voigt, doesn't your theory of RG being Zodiac hit a brick wall when before you can shoot anyone on Lake Herman Rd, you need to actually be in the State of California first...?"

Thomas the Intellect response: "How dare you! Do you know who I am! I've been on a documentary with A Caption following my name on screen that said Tom Voigt - Zodiac Expert and so that means if I say my Dick was in California in late 68, then my Dick was in California!"

Try asking Him about Richard not being in CA and Tom will shout back: "BEHOLD THE CYPHER........G.Y.K.E, PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF GUILT!"

You try and point out that Richard never ever used GYKE but always GAIK and so GYKE is actually totally irrelevant and you will be banished from His presence.

John

5/26/2016 05:06:50 pm

Alex....

I asked you one question. Show us the article you referenced
below.

"A Journalist for the Irish Times wrote a feature on His American Collegue declaring Former Editor of The Good Times Magazine and Tabloid Editor Dick Gaik arrived in Ireland."

Alex Lewis

5/26/2016 11:32:31 pm

John....

I do not have it saves nor know where it is online but I can absolutely assure you that it does exist.

The Irish Newspaper announced the arrival of the American Journalist and not on did they announce His arrival, but I can tell you that when you do find the article it features a photo or Richard along with the write up. I say 'When you find it' because as I said, i've seen it with my own two eyes! I have absolutely no interest in running around forums making shit up. If you choose to not believe Me John, not a problem.

John

5/27/2016 04:16:08 am

Alex,

The Irish Times is fully text searchable online at http://www.irishtimes.com/search 1916 to 2016

I searched Gaikowski and found only two references from
1927 and 1931. Before he was born.

http://www.irishtimes.com/search/archive.html?q=gaikowski&fromDate=&toDate=&sortOrder=oldest&rm=listresults

What year and month is the article you referenced below from?
In case the the searchable text is not picking up Gaikowski
name.

If I have to, I will read page by page from the correct era to find the article you referenced below....

"A Journalist for the Irish Times wrote a feature on His American Collegue declaring Former Editor of The Good Times Magazine and Tabloid Editor Dick Gaik arrived in Ireland."

Alex Lewis

5/27/2016 07:29:25 am

I am not 100% sure if it was the Irish Times, it must be a different paper. I'm trying to think how I came by it a few years back and I just can't remember.

I understand if your skeptical but I know, without a shadow of A doubt, that I have seen and read it and stored it on an old laptop.

I'll ask a few people to see if they know which paper and where you can find it. As I said I remember it even depicted Gaik in a photograph with it.

John

5/27/2016 10:20:44 am

Alex,

Let me know what you find. The below statement you made on
4/21/2015 might refresh your mind.

In addition to the statement you made below on 5/22/2016....

"A Journalist for the Irish Times wrote a feature on His American Collegue declaring Former Editor of The Good Times Magazine and Tabloid Editor Dick Gaik arrived in Ireland."

You also made this statement on 4/21/2016...

"when he arrived in Ireland the Irish Press wrote a feature on Gaik's visit and presence in their little Town writing that Gaikowski had come to visit them who, back home is the editor of a counter-culture magazine 'The Good Times' etc and at the time of Gaik's visit, Ireland as a Country was in probably the worst period of it's troubled past as a Country and the journalist writing this piece about Gaik said that Richard went out and saw the absolute deplorable conditions that children were being made to live in and the reporter said that Richard, when meeting these frightened and poverty stricken children was seen to physically cry because he was overcome with compassion and empathy for these children and their situation."

John

5/27/2016 10:23:20 am

Link to your 4/21/2015 statement...

3rd Comment Down

http://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/gaikowski-in-the-340

Alex Lewis

5/28/2016 10:53:47 am

John, I am aware I have made several statements regarding Gaik's trip to Europe, His first stop being Ireland, and that the press reported it. Now as your link shows, I've said this from at least April of 2015 and do you know why that it? Because it is the truth!
If you wish, google the following to view the source of this comment: 'My Albany Sojourn' (by Richard Gaikowski) and this comment below is there:

"1968 was a pivotal year. The assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy, and the Democratic Convention, led Dick to question his relevance. He quit the paper and left for Europe. Not much later, he found himself in Northern Ireland where he witnessed a brutal attack on Queen’s University students who marched from Belfast to Derry with the People’s Democracy movement. He quickly penned an article for The Knickerbocker News about Ireland’s impending sectarian violence."

Alex Lewis

5/28/2016 11:17:09 am

Now John, if you wish to tout Gaik and the Source Blaine, then your free to do so but Blaine, AKA Gold Catcher, AKA Zakatrious, AKA complete uncredible nut, is known as a rambling nut case, who has told many versions of the same event, and obsessed with Dick Gaikowski..

When Ken Narlow was alleged to have told Blaine that Gaiks finger prints don't match Blaine replied by accusing Narlow of a cover up and protecting the Zodiac. It can all be read here:

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/Richard%20Gaikowski%20and%20Blaine%20Blaine%20-%20The%20Rest%20of%20the%20Story.htm

Alex Lewis

5/29/2016 01:21:22 am

Blaine is completely nuts and not in the slightest bit credible but I'll give Him one thing, He isn't stupid.

Blaine seems to know how ridiculous and completely non evidential His claim is and was smart enough to Lend His own Name or Face to the the claim He makes and, lets be honest, why should He? He will just someone else that is stupid enough to do it for Him.

I'll put an add out there for Thomas:

"Are you completely nuts, mentally ill maybe, total crackpot with a claim that's absolutely absurd with no basis yet wish to be taken seriously? Call Mr T. Voigt now on 55......"

John

5/28/2016 12:34:08 pm

Alex,

You claim to have found an article from an Irish Newspaper with a Picture of Gaikowski in Ireland. The article is written by a foreign journalist in Ireland.

You seem to be the only person in the world to have seen this article!

Why not find or share a copy of this article OR get another person to come forward who also has seen this article?

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ARTICLE!

Your statement on 5/22/2016....

"A Journalist for the Irish Times wrote a feature on His American Collegue declaring Former Editor of The Good Times Magazine and Tabloid Editor Dick Gaik arrived in Ireland."

Your statement on 4/21/2015

"when he arrived in Ireland the Irish Press wrote a feature on Gaik's visit and presence in their little Town writing that Gaikowski had come to visit them who, back home is the editor of a counter-culture magazine 'The Good Times' etc and at the time of Gaik's visit, Ireland as a Country was in probably the worst period of it's troubled past as a Country and the journalist writing this piece about Gaik said that Richard went out and saw the absolute deplorable conditions that children were being made to live in and the reporter said that Richard, when meeting these frightened and poverty stricken children was seen to physically cry because he was overcome with compassion and empathy for these children and their situation."

Alex Lewis

5/28/2016 01:47:42 pm

John you do realize that I don't have to post actual evidence with everything I assert, don't you? "My Name is Alex Lewis, here is my drivers licence uploaded to prove I am not lying. I have a keen interest in the Z case, here are my three books uploaded to prove it.."

And you comment of: "You seem to be the only person in the world to have seen this article!"
Done a Survey of the World did you? And I wouldn't bother assuming things John, nor entitle yourself to speak for every single person on the Planet claiming nobody else has ever seen it.

John allow me to be blunt: I couldn't care less if you don't believe me, the truth doesn't depend on you believing something or not believing it first, the truth John is the truth and in this case with Gaik Irish press report, I am not lying, nor making shit up and the people online who have known me for years will attest to my character.

End of the Story John.

Drew

5/30/2016 09:10:21 am

Gaikowski never owned a U.S. passport, according to a search request made through a California Congressional office about three years ago. No passport file of any kind was found. The researcher had mentioned this to me on a previous occasion and the topic was brought up again today in chat.

Alex Lewis

5/30/2016 01:56:31 pm

According to Blaine's own account, Narlow reportedly stated that Gaikowski had produced a passport with a stamp for London, England in December, 1968, the time of the first suspected Zodiac murders on Lake Herman Road. Gaikowski himself stated in another account that he had been overseas at the time in question. Blaine theorized that Gaikowski's connections to the counter-culture undergound in the Bay Area had somehow provided him with a fake passport used to hide his true travel history." ZodiacKillerFacts.com

Alex Lewis

5/30/2016 02:18:06 pm

Also: ZodiacKiller.com message board. Tom Voigt, quote....

"There is no evidence of Gaikowski being out of the Country until February 1969" End quote.

Thought you said Drew Gaik didn't have a passport? Tom seems to know He did and implies He has seen evidence of Gaik out of Country in at least Feb of 69?

Richard

5/30/2016 03:15:22 pm

http://www.zodiacciphers.com/uploads/4/9/7/1/4971630/2172577_orig.gif

Alex Lewis

5/31/2016 05:30:29 am

Thank you Richard. There you go Drew, press reporting that Gaik is on scene in Ireland during the troublesome Rioting.

Now either the Press are engaging in a conspiracy to protect Richard Gaikowski as the Zodiac (As Ken Narlow and the SFPD are doing also if you listen to the ravings of the credible Blaine Blaine) by lying and pretending He's in Ireland or, probably a bit more likely, nobody is lying or falsifyng press reports and passports and Gaik is actually in Ireland!

Drew

5/30/2016 06:59:12 pm

A pleasant, poor-looking man who told me he worked with Catholics and filled in the pools with his workmates, said: 'If they get control of this city they will kill us in front of the walls, as they did during the siege.' The Observer, January 5, 1969

One young Protestant who was ready to charge the barricades told me, "If they get control of this city they will kill us in front of the walls, as they did during the siege." Richard Gaikowski article in The Knickerbocker News, February 1, 1969

Alex Lewis

5/31/2016 11:16:32 am

Look, in my opinion, Tom has no interest in trying to solve this case and Has ulterior motives because what He does is pay close attention to the evidence and promote it only when it is for His suspect. And there are circumstantial points of interest for Gaik yes, but to only consider and accept this alone and ignore clear evidence and witnesses that show Gaik was not in Calif. in Dec 68 and go about trying to discredit Bob Loomis as wrong when He has proof, claim passport conspiracies and The Press publishing feature articles about a man who isn't even there really,........What is this? I mean really! Is this proper impartial investigation?

You'd think after you 'investigated' Arthur Allen and publicly gave your reputation and name to this theory along with Graysmith only to see your credibility crushed as DNA and Fingerprints conclusively ruled Allen out, you'd think having had this experience that you'd learn from your mistakes. Oh but no, not Tom. Tom's ego is going to destroy any crumbs of credibility He may have left by digging His own grave.

I can honestly say with absolute certainty that if Richard (this site creator, not Gaik) produced clear and solid evidence tomorrow showing Kane was not in Calif on Oct 11 of 69, I give you y honest word I would drop Kane as a suspect and to my Kane page I would add instantly top front and center that 'KANE - EVIDENCE CONCLUSIVELY RULES HIM OUT' and that is the Gods honest truth.
If I went about trying to discredit Richard character and His evidence non founded or substantiated even though it's there right in my face that Id be A F'ing moron and that is exactly what Tom has always done and will continue to do.

Alex Lewis

6/1/2016 06:04:18 am

RICHARD! I I sit here stunned mate!

FBI Replied today to my \FOIA....they've released the name! "Witness in murder if cab Driver Identified *Formerly redacted name" as possible subject in this matter."

I can't believe it Rich, I am sat her and I was completely wrong Rich.....Never heard of this guy at all!

Alex Lewis

6/1/2016 06:06:14 am

Richard, This guy, HE LIVES ON JACKSON STREET!

Alex Lewis

6/1/2016 06:12:01 am

I have His name, DOB and the address He lived at on Jackson!

Rich i am not kidding you I am sat here literally heart going 1000 beats an minute! Rich I was again wrong, it's not His surname in that sentence 'for info ident division' but His first Christian name.

Frank Shore

6/3/2016 10:51:56 pm

I find your topic flipping to be quite disturbing. It was "it on an old laptop" then it's off to another topic just as quick as you can.

I am the person who had my local congressman's office do a 2 month long search - I went into the office and requested that they help me with the Gyke search. They emphatically stated that according to all the different strings they pulled - that Gyke never had a passport

Good Day

Alex Lewis

6/4/2016 11:43:09 am

I am disturbed that your Congressman;s office has devoted Two Entire Months looking for one Man's passport and EMPHATICALLY took them this long to tell you they cannot ;find it

Absence of Evidence is not evidence of absence!

Someone told you, you say, that they could not find a passport after two months of searching and 'Pulling Stings' so it is We emphatically conclude, It's never existed!

Now for the purpose of this message only, let us assume your right, Gaik was not abroad in 68 nor 69, this is evidence of what? "Gaik, in in the States!" Is this your idea of Circumstantial Evidence?

I petitioned the FBI twice in Two FOIA Requests for the arrest records for Lawrence Klein and Lawrence Cane, FBI twice replied they don't have the requested information as a search of their main file systems was non responsive.
Is this evidence that no such arrest record exists for Lawrence? I assure you absence of evidence is not evidence of absence for Klein's record existing, I just had to add His FBI No. to the third Request and there it was!

Tom and Blaine don't contest and even confirm that was out of Country in 1969 and 70, so did He swim to Ireland Illegally?

Drew

6/4/2016 09:13:44 am

Richard said he left for Europe at the end of September, 1968. Yes, he said that, but Gaikowski ALSO said he had been “on the scene” in Ireland during the month of January, 1969 and had written a news story that was original and factual in content. This article was published in the Knickerbocker News on February 1, 1969. However, some of the content is not his.

Here is a challenge -- go to any professional editor or journalist and show them Gaikowski’s article AND the one published in The Observer(“Ulster Police Stone Catholics”) on January 5th, 1969. They are not going to accept that “circumstantial” oddities are to blame for the plagiarism.

They are also not going to believe that Richard was only lounging in a Belfast pub when he was there or that writers “shared stuff all the time” back in those days. These are some of the more spurious explanations I’ve read.

Another article regarding Richard’s Ireland “travels” appeared in the Good Times newspaper on March 5, 1970. This article also contains factual errors and misinformation. Gaikowski claimed he had been allowed some broadcast time on Radio Free Derry. Not true, according to one of the people who helped set up the station.

I also contacted a journalist who did a story on Radio Free Derry in January, 1969. He debunked Gaikowski’s claim of a headline appearing in both The Times and Guardian -- “Red Radio in Derry.” A search of the online archives for both papers turns up no such headline as well.

It’s clear now that the the Irish Times article also does not exist. Alex, I am not going to opine on why you thought it did, but it could just be that you confused one article for another. In any event, the absence of this article AND Gaikowski’s nonexistent passport file reinforce the fact he was not in Ireland. If you don’t believe this, go ahead and take the “editor’s challenge.”

Whitey

6/30/2016 04:59:48 pm

Actually, Gaikowski never said he went to Europe immediately after quitting the Knickerbocker News. Heading to Europe was the most compelling thing he did following leaving the newspaper, thus it is included in his memoirs. But he never stated exactly when he made the trip. And even if he did head to Europe in September 1968, unemployed reporters are not good candidates to afford a three-plus month European vacation, which would have been necessary to still be overseas by late December 1968.

Alex Lewis

7/16/2016 01:41:56 pm

Attention of Mr Whitey:

Dear Sir

I shall say one thing & one thing only then leave it at that.

If you are asking me to decide who's being willingly deceptive, Robert 'Bob' Loomis or King Thomas of Community-Z then, I am going to choose not to believe that Bob fabricated His evidence and forged the letters He claims He was sent by Gaik from Albany, NY (among other places) and that despite Tom Himself attempting to tell me that post Mystery-Quest filming Loomis immediately approached Tom declaring He had made a huge mistake and got the dates wrong and, to quote Tom Direct: "Recanted All Claims He made during the Filming" I choose to believe this is not factually true and that Tom is doing what Tom does best, Lying without a thought for the victims of this case and doing it for His Selfish Agenda of being proven correct at any and all costs and if that means lying through His teeth, then that's what He will do and Has done!

That's Fact as far as I know He said that of Loomis because the person He said it to was Myself.

Legality: "It is not considered Slander nor Defaming of Character if the thing claimed of the person is a thing said in truth"

End Of!!

Alex Lewis

7/16/2016 02:01:36 pm

Now if you, 2 others or 100,000 others choose not to believe He said this to me then that's up to you and you are free to make your own choices and believe what and who you choose. It still won't have any baring nor relevance to The Fact in and of Truth itself that Tom said exactly what I declared He Said in the post above this one.

Again, I don't suffer fools lightly. If people so decide that supporting a theory or belief of a thing (Z's Ident) and the Theories Claimant is an individual who deliberately misrepresents the facts to people in order to simply make that Claim of His appear stronger than it actually is, well feel free to do so. You stand with Him on a House of Cards that, when one breeze of truth comes by, will collapse under it's own falseness and all who bought into it fall with it.

Alex Lewis

7/16/2016 02:10:08 pm

It should, for the No Agenda and Non-biased person, say everything that needs to be said in how Sure or Convinced One is of His own theory if that One Claiming it feels a need to Lie, Distort Truth and Claim that of which is untrue as True.

If a Man must go to the extreme of outright lying in order to make His own case and Opinion appear to be stronger than it is, then there is likely very little to no convincing evidence in support of what He claims because if there was, He would not feel a need to convince Me or any other Man that His claim has merit by offering false evidence and /or claims.

Maybe the Answer is to change the Question?

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