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"I think I shall wipe out a School Bus some Morning. . ."

11/30/2016

 
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This article was written by Alex Lewis (Welsh Chappie), whose own site detailing Zodiac suspect Lawrence Kane, can be found here.

 I've always believed, even before the release of Xenophon Anthony's name, that Zodiac's threat to 'wipe out a school bus some morning' is a masked threat to the specific school child He knows ID'd Him. The threat was a veiled threat at a school child rather than school children. Zodiac Himself seems to later confirm this threat was not a general threat against a school bus full of kids by declaring in a later letter: "If you cops think I am going to take on a school bus the way I stated I would, You deserve to have holes in your heads."


​Note Zodiac says "The way I stated I would" which to Me seems like He's admitting the way He said it, ie, to take on a school bus, was never to be taken at face value but was simply a masked threat toward a school Kid rather than School Kids. The School Kid I believe He'd threatening is the witness referenced in the FBI report, a witness the report declares: "Eight year old witness in murder of Taxi driver Identified (Xenophon) Anthony as Possible subject in this matter." Zodiac, in a subsequent letter,  chins authorities for taking His threat as literal and at face value saying:  "If You cops think I am gong to take on a school bus the way I stated I would, You deserve to have holes in Your heads."


 If this is a masked threat toward the eight year old witness who Identified Zodiac, then it suggests that Xenophon's ID by this witness was accurate and that Xenophon Anthony is The Zodiac because if Zodiac knew that A witness had identified an innocent person as being possibly responsible, then He'd have no need to threaten the witness and would likely be in His own favor to allow the authorities to believe the witness knowing He had ID'd the wrong person. The fact that Zodiac threatens school children, or what I believe is a specific school kid, suggests that the school kid had in all probability ID'd the correct suspect which is why the suspect responded by threatening Him to keep His mouth shut. 

 Let's also not forget, The Zodiac has been seen by cops on October 11 and, quite obviously, Zodiac knows He's been seen and according to Zodiac Himself, backed up by first responding Officer on scene, Armond Pelissetti,  Officers Fouke & Zelms actually stopped Him and spoke to Him "Face to Face." With this in mind, it makes little to no sense for Zodiac now, knowing He'd been seen and spoken to by Don and Eric, to fire off a letter a day later announcing that He, The Zodiac, was  responsible for this crime because in doing so He surely knows that Police will now know what Zodiac looks like. Why drop such evidence in police laps when keeping quiet would mean Law Enforcement would be none the wiser to this crime actually being one of His?  If He just kept quiet then Paul's murder would forever be a cab robbery gone wrong and nobody would have any cause nor reason to attribute this crime to Zodiac. But, for some reason, Zodiac writes the letter anyway knowing it will mean Cops now know what He looks like and there has to be some method in His madness here and I think He had to write it because He wanted to instill fear in the Kid who ID'd Him by revealing that He Hasn't ID'd just any petty criminal here, but, in fact, the man He's dealing with is actually the ruthless, cold blooded and infamous, Zodiac!


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Richard
12/1/2016 12:34:26 pm

The threat aimed at the school bus may very well be a veiled threat towards either the Robbins kids or the 8 year old, or both. who all spotted Zodiac that night. If the threat was tailored towards the 8 year old, and Zodiac was not part of law enforcement or privy to FBI material, the only way Zodiac could have known about the 8 year old spotting him. is if Zodiac spotted the 8 year old that night. Naturally Zodiac would have been scanning his surroundings as he was inside and outside the taxicab and his direct line of sight would have been on the Robbins kids house as he exited the front passenger side of the taxicab after removing the shirt piece. When he walked to the driver side wiping prints, he has a direct line of sight on 3898 Washington Street, where the 8 year 2 month young boy lived, and was the only obvious candidate to recognize anybody in or around the taxicab. The FBI report indicates the 8 year old to be a witness to the murder, therefore had to be resident somewhere extremely close, and since none of the Robbins kids were 8 years of age, and neither were the residents in the next two houses west of 3898 Washington Street, then with near certainty this is the house the crime was observed from. If this 8 year old recognized Anthony, then Anthony recognized the 8 year old. He must of recognized the child, because if the school bus threat was as a result of this 3898 Washington Street sighting, Zodiac was aware of being spotted and hence the need for the threat, two days later. The first contact by Zodiac was 7 months after the LHR murders, nearly a month after BRS, no contact after LB, but the response here was swift. Zodiac must have drafted the letter the day after the murder. Maybe, as you say Alex, he needed to send a message imminently to discourage anybody, particularly the 8 year old, or his parents from cooperating with police.
However we have a major issue. You and I both agree Donald Fouke stopped and spoke to Zodiac, for at least 15 seconds minimum. Donald Fouke gave a detailed description that tallied with the Robbins kids. The 8 year old, accompanied by his parents clearly reported the sighting of Zodiac to police, which eventually was given enough merit to enter the FBI records. Surely therefore, considering the 8 year old identified Xenophon Anthony, the next logical step was to show a picture or present Anthony to the Robbins kids and/or Donald Fouke and say to them "Is this the subject you spotted that night", either by the taxicab or walking along Jackson Street. This would be basic police work, checking if either party, Robbins kids or Donald Fouke recognized Anthony, but apparently it seems we are unaware of any of the other eyewitnesses being asked to corroborate the 8 year old's identification of Anthony. If Donald Fouke had stopped Anthony and had a face to face chat with him, then he could unequivocally had identified Anthony as the man on Jackson Street and almost certainly the Zodiac Killer.
Also a threat against a random school bus, is meaningless, unless he is to specifically target the school bus the 8 year old is disembarking from. This would suggest that he may know the 8 year old personally, as the 8 year old knew him, and considering where Anthony lived, they may have known each other through a collective school. This would be a point of contact between kids and adults, and Anthony's wife is the key, as I believe she was instrumental in this field from what I can remember.

Alex Lewis
12/3/2016 10:09:07 am

Zodiac wouldn't have to be scanning to spot the kid, even if He saw a kid in a window, that doesn't mean that this kid is obviously he witness who spoke to cops.

I told You Rich what I believe actually happened, although I admit it a theory that has no viable supporting grounds I can show, other than this theory and it's identify was custom back tjen and is still done today.

When there has been a serious crime occur and police have a living victim or a first hand witness to the crime, they will always perform a search for the suspects and if they come across anyone matching suspects description then police have powers to detain the suspect there on the spot, but they need grounds to suspect or believe He is involved before they can arrest this suspect so what they'll almost always do is either bring the victim or witness to be driven by the detained suspect to ask if He can ID Him as responsible, or drive the suspect back to the witness for same purpose. This practise still regularly happens today, and this is what I think happened in PH.

Alex Lewis
12/5/2016 09:39:41 am

You've hit on something there Rich that I have long suspected, that being, the Z knowing the Eight have old witness. The reference to a school bus also I wonder if it, while not literal in the threat itself, but relevant and personal to the witness such as, as you said, Z knowing the kid and which bus He takes to school etc. Z does say it won't do any good to re-route the school bus because the bomb (again, I believe the bomb is a metaphor for Himself) can be adapted to new conditions.

I've also wondered if the witness has some sort of personal connection to a school bus such as a relative driving one etc. Whatever it is, the bus itself could be important as to why He uses it in the threat.

And again, you make a second point that is one that I too have thought of. This time it's the point you make about surely once A witness ID's Xenophon, the next obvious thing to do is go get Don Fouke's and present Him with Xenophon's photo. I cannot believe Rich that they wouldn't and didn't do exactly that. Now some may suggest that Don obviously said it wasn't Him He saw and M response to that would be "Well all the more reason to simply say so if He, Xenophon, has been incorrectly ID'd by a kid. I mean after all, Don freely admit to us that when the Richmond composite came out at Richmond Station, Don states "He (Toschi) may have been the Inspector who came out and asked me about the composite and I told Him the suspect was older and heavier."

If the head of Homicide is confident that Could saw the responsive that night to the point where He goes to him for His opinion on the composite accuracy then it stands to reason He's be even more so if and when an actual person and their mug shot is ID'd by witness as being the shooter.

Richard
12/2/2016 02:30:39 pm

You have a few things in your favour Alex, as you believe Zodiac likely didn't enter the park, where the dogs were deployed. Eyewitnesses by Spruce told police of a man entering the park, but if this was not Zodiac, it may explain why sniffer dogs found no trace of him in the Presidio. If Anthony was the Zodiac, then had he stayed on Jackson Street to 3218, clearly the bloodhounds would have picked up no scent, as he headed directly home. The statement in the Bus Bomb letter "The dogs never came with in 2 blocks of me + they were to the west" is from Julius Khan playground (where the dogs were grouped by the entrance to the park) approximately places the author of this statement at Walnut Street (2 3/4 blocks away) . This is the road that joins Jackson Street, to take you to 3218. The detailing in the Bus Bomb letter such as "The dogs never came with in 2 blocks of me + they were to the west + there was only 2 groups of parking about 10 min apart then the motor cicles went by about 150 ft away going from south to north west." also suggests an intimate knowledge of the area, that would likely only be known by a local. If you travel to a location you are unfamiliar with, you are highly unlikely to know south from north, west from east, unless you are stargazing or have intimate knowledge of the locations you are killing in. Zodiac stated compass directions in both phone calls, "the girl was on her right side feet to the west" in his July 31st letters and in the Bus Bomb letter, of which he got all compass locations correct, including BRS. Many people believe he got his directions wrong here, but by inserting that crucial comma or a pause, the directions he gave from the Springs/Tuolumne payphone to the murder site was totally accurate "I wish to report a double murder. If you will go one mile east.......... on Columbus Parkway to a public park, you will find the kids in a brown car. They have been shot by a 9 mm Luger. I also killed those kids last year.... Good-bye" The only things Zodiac gets incorrect is distances in both phone calls, but his compass navigational skills were correct every time. The motorcycles visible from the Walnut Street area and beyond, or by this area of West Pacific Avenue, would have been travelling along WPA east to Presidio Boulevard to circle the park. Presidio Boulevard heads from the south to northwest. Very specific detailing, indicating good knowledge of the area. Unless we contend he examined maps subsequent to the murder dates.
The height of the house at 3218 Jackson Street gives perfect elevation and line of sight northwest to Julius Khan playground, despite other houses backing onto West Pacific Avenue. Here is the house view https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/3218+jackson+street+san+francisco+basement/@37.7907264,-122.448349,3a,60y,345.29h,98.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQDRt_KeM6BHtxPc9G6fUBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x45556f3f2dc4b91d

Here is the elevated view
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/3218+Jackson+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94118,+USA/@37.7908075,-122.4459066,271a,20y,270h,41.66t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8085873296ee2af9:0x45556f3f2dc4b91d!8m2!3d37.790987!4d-122.448361

Richard
12/2/2016 02:47:47 pm

This is looking at 3218 Jackson Street from Julius Khan playground.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/3218+Jackson+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94118,+USA/@37.7923775,-122.4626327,1022a,20y,90h,44.74t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8085873296ee2af9:0x45556f3f2dc4b91d!8m2!3d37.790987!4d-122.448361

This house is located at an elevated position. This is from the intersection of Walnut and Jackson, looking east towards 3218 Jackson Street . Any view from the upper windows of this house gives sight across into the Presidio Park. A perfect vantage point.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/3218+Jackson+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94118,+USA/@37.7906141,-122.4491762,3a,60y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLacWICNJwWAZhE9RAMU6jg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x8085873296ee2af9:0x45556f3f2dc4b91d!8m2!3d37.790987!4d-122.448361


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    Alex Lewis {Welsh Chappie)
    "I am the same Welsh Chappie that resides in the NEWPORT Area of South Wales, a City that had this hit The Parody, Newport State of Mind recorded on Location in and around the City. My own site with all facts and info on suspect Lawrence Kane can be visited via this link".

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