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ATTENTION PAUL AVERLY [PART TWO]

8/21/2024

 
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The information provided here will be nothing new to people who have read the comments of the previous article, but I wanted to expand on that article for people who don't want to trawl through the comments section.

On November 16th 1970 Paul Avery produced a comprehensive newspaper article about a potential connection of Zodiac to the Riverside murder of Cheri Jo Bates and the associated communications, which included the Desktop Poem. The newspaper article detailed the two Confession letters mailed on November 29th 1966 and read "Two unstamped envelopes, one addressed in large black print to the Riverside Press-Enterprise, the other to "Homicide Detail", were dropped into a rural mailbox". The newspaper article then detailed the three "She/Bates Had to Die" letters from April 30th 1967 and the writing on the Riverside Desktop Poem.

The only communication featured visually on November 16th 1970 was the "She Had to Die" envelope mailed to the "Press Enterprise" newspaper, with two 4 cent Abraham Lincoln stamps issued on November 19th 1965 (see image below). In other words, Abraham Lincoln was integral to the "She Had to Die" envelope and the Paul Avery article. The next communication mailed by the Zodiac Killer to Paul Avery was the Pines postcard on March 22nd 1971 featuring 4 cent pre-stamped Abraham Lincoln postage from 1962. The Pines postcard had insufficient postage for 1971, yet the Zodiac Killer chose this postcard from 9 years earlier. Was this a deliberate choice to mimic the postage from the "She Had to Die" envelope and send a subtle message to Paul Avery? The Pines postcard was the first and only time the Zodiac Killer used Abraham Lincoln postage during his known reign of terror. Ordinarily I would say this was coincidence, until you consider the Confession letter envelope mailed to the Riverside Press-Enterprise as well.    

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"BATES HAD TO DIE" ENVELOPE (1967, NOT 1966 AS SHOWN IN THE NEWSPAPER}
The Confession letter envelope mailed to the Press-Enterprise newspaper (see below) also featured in the Paul Avery article on November 16th 1970, and was "addressed in large black print". This envelope contained the footnote of "attn: crime", meant for the crime department of their newspaper. As stated above, the next Zodiac communication addressed to Paul Avery was the Pines postcard carrying the footnote "att. Paul averly=chronicle" on the address side. Both of these footnotes were unconventionally placed in the bottom left corner under the address of the newspapers, rather than top and center, above the address. Since Paul Avery was involved in the coverage of "crime", both communications made a point of addressing the relevant personnel within the newspaper, using the word "attention". This was also the first and only time the Zodiac Killer did this in any of his correspondence. We now had the 4c Abraham Lincoln postage and "attention" seemingly mimicked from the Confession and ​"She Had to Die" envelopes, mailed to the Press-Enterprise newspaper. The Confession letter envelope to the Press-Enterprise newspaper had been made public on December 1st 1966, so it is possible the Pines card was deliberately engineered by the Zodiac Killer to somewhat mimic this communication.    
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The final connection is more tenuous, but there is a strong argument that the Riverside Desktop author was reminiscing in the present tense about the attempted murder by knife of Miss Atwood. She was stabbed several times on the Riverside campus by Rolland Taft on April 13th 1965, but managed to escape and survive. Here is a relevant snippet from a previous article:

All we have to do to connect the desktop poem with the Confession letter, is look at the title of the desktop poem, which reads "Sick of living/unwilling to die". The desktop poem begins with "Sick of living", and the Confession letter states "I am not sick. I am insane". The desktop poem title uses the word "unwilling", to which the Confession letter states "She was then very willing to talk to me" and "She went very willingly". One referenced an unwillingness to die, whereas one claimed Cheri Jo Bates went "willingly" to her death. In other words, Miss Atwood resisted her death and didn't die "that time", but Cheri Jo Bates died hard and willingly. The desktop poem title uses the phrase "to die", with the Confession letter stating "I said it was about time. She asked me "about time for what". I said it was about time for her to die". This brings forth another connection between both communications with the word "time" central to both. The desktop poem uses the word "time" twice, when stating "She won't die, this time someone'll find her. Just wait till next time", whereas the Confession letter uses the word "time" three times by stating "I said it was about time. She asked me "about time for what". I said it was about time for her to die". We have the words "sick", "unwilling" (in root form) and "time" from the desktop poem, used 6 times in the Confession letter by way of "sick", "willing", "willingly", "time", "time" and "time". In fact, the words "die" and "time" are used in the same context in both communications by the sentences "she won't die, this time someone'll find her" and "I said it was about time for her to die". If you add in the three Bates letters of "Bates had to die", "She had to die" and "She had to die" into the equation, we have the phrase "to die" used 5 times in all three communications.

Miss Atwood escaped the clutches of Rolland Lin Taft in 1965, expressed by the desktop author when they stated "she won't die, this time someone'll find her", but reminded everybody that the next time Cheri Jo Bates wouldn't be so lucky by finishing the poem with "Just wait till next time. rh". That "next time" may well have been Riverside, Halloween, denoted by a lower case "r" and "h". 
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Ricardo Gomez of Mk-Zodiac showed the possible inspiration for the Riverside Desktop poem through a newspaper article from - you've guessed it - the Press Enterprise once more. The newspaper carried the headline "Clean-Cut Youth Sought in Stabbing". This was the referring to the attempted murder of Miss Atwood, who undoubtedly would have had "blood spurting, dripping and spilling" over her dress. But the Desktop Poem began with "cut, clean", appearing to mimic the newspaper headline. The Desktop Poem seemed to borrow from the Press-Enterprise headline of "Clean-Cut Youth Sought in Stabbing" from April 17th 1965, as did the Pines postcard when it used the pasted word "Sought", despite being sourced from a later newspaper headline. If this last observation isn't stretching the truth too much, we now have the 4c Abraham Lincoln postage, the "attention" attribution in the bottom left corner, and the word "sought" from the Pines postcard relevant to the three Riverside "communications" from 1966 and 1967.

Johnny
8/21/2024 05:56:13 am

He also had his signature on the envelope, was this because he put to low postage ( maybe of that reason that
you suggest, Rick. ), and thought it would have a higher chance slipping through because of this signature?

"Attention" though isn't written in the same way in -65 and -71, but it's the same
wording alright.

Richard
8/21/2024 06:23:07 am

Both "attn" and "att" can be used to abbreviate "attention", so although both are different I'm not too worried - after all - he wasn't averse to spelling the same word differently, such as button and control, within the same letter. That is a good point about adding his pseudonym to the postcard, because that would basically be a free pass on any communication short or devoid of postage.

Johnny
8/21/2024 07:18:49 am

No, maybe he didn't remember how he hade written in -65, if the letter wasn't published that is.

If i would guess i would think the letter was published because of the stamps mostly, but also becuase of "attention".

If it wasn't published, it might be a hard thing to explain away those two Lincoln stamps?

But they say they know who the letterwriter in Riverside was and that it can't be the Zodiac, so it would be very good to know if the letter was really published in the papers or not.

If it wasn't and Zodiac wasn't the letter writer for Riverside, we might look at the "insider" angle, a cop or someone at the newspaper or things like that.

Johnny
8/21/2024 07:36:11 am

Ofcourse i meant that he would be better identified if he would write
the exact same sentence. That he spells different, even in the same letter i am aware of, but if he want to get identified as the letter writer in Riverside, ofcourse it would be better to write exactly the same, if he did remember that is

I do think it was published, because if it wasn't we have a whole new ballgame.

Richard
8/21/2024 08:48:26 am

I guess Zodiac could give us exactly the same wording or sentence to prove he was involved in Riverside but that would be no fun. His ciphers, Mt. Diablo code, punch-holes, skeleton inserts, strange symbols and loaded wording were all part of the game. If somebody can find the envelope published before March 22nd 1971, it would prove that Zodiac had the ability to mimic somebody else to some extent. If it wasn't published, then the the whole thing does get more interesting. I just hope that if somebody does find it published, it's a little bit quicker than the 2 years taken to find the published Belli letter regarding its comparison to the 1978 letter. The Holy Grail would be definitively showing a link between Zodiac and Riverside. This can only be done by using something unpublished from 1966 and 1967, besides the obvious DNA and fingerprints. I'm still sceptical of any link between Riverside and Zodiac, however, things would be far more interesting if there was Johnny. The inside job argument is always used to dispel people's research, but it's always done without any evidence of an inside job. It has now become a throwaway line to refute positive efforts in finding answers. All I will say about "inside job" claims by people, is prove it. It's like me saying the police killed all five victims, yet never qualifying the statement with proof. Much like Thomas Horan did regarding the shirt piece.

Richard link
8/21/2024 08:55:42 am

This is the only image I've found but I can't remember where it first appeared and when. Maybe somebody can provide that answer. Click my name.

Johnny
8/21/2024 10:40:11 am

Don't know, but 24:41 in this documentary:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/zodiackillerfr/case-reopened-the-zodiac-video-and-discussion-t10372.html

Richard
8/21/2024 11:51:33 am

Thanks Johnny.

Russ Thompson
8/21/2024 11:03:57 am

"[Riverside PD] say they know who the letter writer in Riverside was and that it can't be the Zodiac...."

RPD claimed to identify the "Bates letter hoaxer" but nothing has been demonstrated. RPD has merely released a statement and they have no oath to be honest to the press. Perhaps RPD conveniently found a longtime Riverside resident willing to claim s/he read all the crime articles and then hoaxed the Bates letters (presumably when still a teenager?)
RPD wasted decades chasing down a local man for the Bates murder. That man was finally exonerated via DNA but Riverside PD still insist that the local man did it. And they still focus on that man to this day. RPD have worn down their own credibility. RPD have a need to remove Zodiac from the case because RPD are convinced amongst themselves that a local man did the crime, and that the Zodiac case is an interloper.
The RPD blinders are on.

Johnny
8/21/2024 11:16:05 am

Then they lay very much energy on this 50 year afterwards to concoct a lie. It could be as you say, but it seems also amazing if this is true.

Maybe if there is some detective that is involved in this announcement that had a father detective who was obstinate in the 60 and 70's i could trust it a bit. Because, why would the new detectives be loyal to the misstakes done so many years ago?

I think the announcement is legtimate, but they don't want to cause unnecessary trouble to the hoaxer.

Richard
8/21/2024 11:55:20 am

For me, if the hoaxer didn't claim the Desktop Poem and Confession letters as well, he isn't the author of any.

Rus Thompson link
8/28/2024 01:27:01 pm

To clarify my comments a bit, this quote is from the Zodiac Killer website regarding the local suspect that RPD had their eyes on:

"When Cheri's body was found, two to three strands of hair were recovered from a clot of blood and tissue in the palm of her hand.... Tissue was also recovered from under Cheri's fingernails....

In December 1998, information was developed that [local suspect] was returning to the Riverside area for Christmas. RPD managed to get a warrant and met [local suspect] upon his arrival at Ontario Airport. RPD took skin, saliva, hair and other samples from [local suspect], which were then sent for DNA analysis to the FBI Laboratory in Quantico, Va....

UPDATE: The DNA results were a conclusive non-match."

Despite that, RPD are still focused on the local man and their theory of the murder.

Johnny
8/21/2024 11:29:37 am

The only thing that could indicate that Riverside was Zodiac, besides the letters, DNA and such is if there is something in this case that may catch up with him, and there isn't it seems after all the investigation done to try to connect Zodiac with this crime.

It could also be that Zodiac feels that this crime somehow is a disgrace to his huge ego in some way, for example that he aknowledge the letter as childish or something in the crime not to his liking.

I don't trust Voigts thinking on certain things, and that is because he adds proof together into a chain that doesn't need to mean anything. For me it's just as possible that Zodiac learned from Gaviota, Riverside in the news. He didn't need to be the one who did it, and if he is, we outsiders need more absolute proof of it.

Rubislaw32 link
8/21/2024 05:09:33 pm

But Voigt's sources are always ''excellent''. We know this because Voigt tells us they are excellent.

On a serious note, it was the FBI who fed Riverside PD with the ''San Bernardino Delinquent/Man''. Riverside seem happy to accept anything that detracts from Zodiac being responsible for Cheri Jo.

I agree with Riverside that someone other than Zodiac was responsible for Cheri Jo. But, they shouldn't be so dismissive about the Bates correspondences on this account. The Bates correspondences are ''very likely'' the work of the Zodiac - and FBI are up to their ''defeating the ends of Zodiac-justice'' games, yet again.

Johnny
8/22/2024 01:58:39 am

Ok, then it it 3 against one and i need to confirm your proofs. I will look closer starting now. Only one thing, the pines card might not be genuine? The cross hairs a but different, the text is written " to easy on the hand", and it could be a forgery because it is a small amount of text + lastly it might be suspicious because of references to Riverside and Averly? This is my first, fast impressions if it.

Rubislaw32 link
8/22/2024 02:57:47 am

Just ''by-the-by'', I think the Pines card is authentic Zodiac. But, the FBI have played around with the address side, leaving the ''peek through the pines'' side untouched.

Rubislaw32 link
8/22/2024 02:40:43 am

I have no problem with your views, Johnny. I am a bit tongue-in-cheek with Voigt's sources, since he assumes that everyone else believes that he is a great arbiter of ''excellence''.

Personally, and if of interest to anyone, I believe the Zodiac is responsible for all the Bates correspondences, including the Desk Top poem. I once tried to acquire Riverside student-enrollment information 1965/1966 from an information agency, and then Robert Graysmith. No go - Graysmith and ''one other'' are believed to be the only people that have this information.

I believe that the Zodiac's name appears on the Automotive Repairs Department's enrollment - circa June 1966, attending a crash course, in order to acquire a welder's certificate. By the time of Cheri Jo's October 1966 murder, the Zodiac was working in Libya, and therefore has a cast-iron alibi for not having murdered her. And furthermore, am confident that CA DOJ know this.

So, an ''associations with Riverside College'' proof, as it were, on student enrollment documentation. But, most of us are unlikely to see that proof for ourselves.

Johnny
8/22/2024 03:37:56 am

Voigt should be thanked for what he researched from the beginning, and it is also good for a person to have som integrity, but after that it ends. The only time i come up to his defence is when people like this Doerr writer individual talks like a girl. Then it's finished for me. And your two quotes of Tom in booth messages sums him up perfectly in both good and the bad.

Yeah, i will try and study the letter you mention and the desktop poem aswell and come back if i find something interesting. That includes your input and Ricks articles on this site.


Yeah,

Rubislaw32 link
8/22/2024 03:51:55 am

Yes - Voigt can be thanked for his contributions in rekindling a general interest in the Zodiac case, and promoting a Zodiac-internet fraternity, so to speak.

Sadly, March 25th 2019 and ''Game-on-gate'' proved his Waterloo in further holding integrity with Bay area PD's, in particular. But, he still manages to run a decent Zodiac reference site, to this day. If you can cope with the resident glove-puppets. Most of his members seem to be able to - but it would drive me batty.

Johnny
8/22/2024 10:14:28 am

For me it's very hard to say something about these letters, but i agree with Rick about the Lincoln stamps. I have a hard time to come around that one. I don't agree as much with you Rick ,when you take out words and compare them with the desktop poem. I can't find
that as compelling as the stamps.

So, i guess i can't agree on that the poem and the letter writer need to be the same individual. What do you think about that connection, Rubi? Between the letter and the desktop poem i mean.

johnny
8/22/2024 10:19:58 am

Could the "Z" in the confession letter/ letters stand for Zorro?

I think the Bates had to die may be Zodiac, but the desktop poem and the typewritten letter is someone else?



Rubislaw32 link
8/22/2024 12:13:34 pm

The Zodiac ''may'' have likened himself to a few characters of fiction, with Zorro and The Scarlet Pimpernel, very probably candidates. But, he was ultimately to himself as a persona, ''The Zodiac''.

There was also, I believe, a side to him that saw the good and bad himself. And, was influenced by brothers Cain & Abel, and inspired by Salvador Dali who was named the same as his pre-deceased brother, with Dali's parents viewing the arrival of Dali, as simply a newer version of his tragically passed brother, then expected to live out his life, as his brother, but ''Mark II''. Also, Zodiac was inspired by the tale of Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde (Desk Top Poem) - seeing almost a justification for becoming a bad person, temporarily.

In addition, what I believe may be the big ''yet unknown'' about him: That he lost a twin brother at birth, and also blames his Secret Pa's abandonment of his mother on this having happened. Causing Zodiac to, in effect, to be denied a ''best friend'' in life, before his life had even really started. The Zodiac often signed as St Michael, when extorting on the basis of simple menace, Rev Billy Graham, whom he occasionally annoyed by letter for 33 years ( 1976-2009 ). Graham - essentially a pro-abortionist.

With the Desk Top Poem, I believe it is, in essence, an ''ode to mother'', sympathizing with her painful birth of him, the Zodiac.

Rubislaw32 link
8/22/2024 12:55:24 pm

Yes - the Bates correspondences as a collection, represent a ''dress rehearsal'' in his mind, about how he was going to give his Secret Pa (William Grant) an almighty hard time, and make him suffer a ''living hell''. It would have been letting Grant off lightly, to simply kill him. And increase the chances of Zodiac getting caught.

The ''signing'', as such, of the Desk Top Poem: ''Just wait till next time, r h.''. ''Borrowed'' from ''Peanuts''. '' r h '' ? ''richt-hofen'' - The Red Baron. Likening, sarcastically, his Pa to the WW I fighter pilot ace - but actually a Bomber Radio Op.

Johnny
8/22/2024 02:06:00 pm

Yes, Rubi. We hope you are right. Couldn't "r" stand for Riverside aswell? Riverside "hero" or "his" perhaps if it is the Zodiac.

Johnny
8/22/2024 02:07:29 pm

"R"iverside "H"ighschool

Rubislaw32 link
8/22/2024 02:20:53 pm

Indeed Johnny - he should have called himself The Duplicitous Zodiac. So often he was this, both literally (double) and figuratively (deceiving).

Johnny
8/23/2024 04:05:13 am

I just read an interesting interview with the codebreaker D. Harden. He thinks much like many of you, that Zodiac is not "especially" intelligent, that he is somewhat older ( from a proof in the crypto that Harden wount mention ) and that he might borrow his codes from detective stories. The cryptograms Hardens feels are more or less nonsense and not very sophisticated at all.

Jibberjabber
8/23/2024 04:09:57 am

An endless source of speculation and likely always will be - he seems to have understood frequency analysis at least hence he hid the use of his letter "e" in code. So I think he is above cereal packet cryptographer level at least

Rubislaw32 link
8/23/2024 04:32:52 am

''...he might borrow his codes from detective stories.''. On that point, Johnny, and other aspects of Zodiac's implementations, I certainly agree.

Johnny
8/23/2024 04:19:48 am

Yes.

Anyway, the only witness that have him at 40 or so is Fouke. The young people at the Stine scene and Mageau ( which description i like better then most ) have him below 30.

Jibberjabber
8/23/2024 08:47:46 am

That is incorrect as the police report made out by officer Pelissetti gives the description of the Stine killer as early 40s. Pelissetti got that from the Robbins obviously as he was the first officer to arrive.

Johnny
8/23/2024 05:05:06 am

Don't know if Grants son was or is married or not, but a criminal like Zodiac have very low odds on being unmarried, even back then.

This is a very childish crime done for sensation. One of the most fitting this profile is perhaps this young obese male reported because he wanted a paintjob on his car.

We have also have a deadringer for the sketch that did some type of radio programme and lived close to the Stine site? What was his name?

Johnny
8/23/2024 10:09:42 am

Pelissetti said that, ok. The first poster says otherwise and also from what i just now read in the news from the event the Robbin kids says 25-30. Yeah, this is something to think about.

Jibberjabber
8/23/2024 11:18:27 am

https://zodiackillerfacts.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=82&pid=943#top_display_media

Johnny
8/23/2024 11:53:06 am

Thanks, Jibby, and that confirms Rubis statement which i never distrusted. Then we have different versions it seems.

Johnny
8/23/2024 12:04:50 pm

Maybe the first wanted poster was done in a haste, which also Rodelli is writing about.

If that's the case, perhaps the Robbins kids thought all along that Zodiac was around 40.

They saw him clearly and over a certain time and both girl and boy was consistent with each other of Zodiac looks says Rodelli.

This was nice new information for me!


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